My Tenant’s An Asshole For Asking Me If He Can Have A Dog

We’re encroaching the end of May.

The last time I blogged was in the middle of Feb.

Welcome back everyone!

I’m pleased to say that many new faces have joined the landlord club since I last got down, so they’re about to get deflowered (but sadly, many will never be seen or felt again, because they didn’t quite realise they subscribed to… well, me!).

So, anyways, you know how some times- for months on end- falling asleep is infinitely more appealing than prolonging unconsciousness to “service” your long-term spouse, because going through the same old exhausted routine seems unbearable? I think that’s what kind of happened with my relationship with blogging. It all kind of went to stale shit.

I genuinely wasn’t sure when or how I’d rekindle the flame. But ya’know, it’s funny how destiny works, because all it took was one unwanted text message from my dick-face tenant to put me back on track…

So here we are! Reunited.

My tenant wants a dog (even though there’s a ‘no pet’ policy in play)…

Hi Landlord. Do you mind if I get a small dog? I promise I’ll take care of it, and it won’t cause any problems. I love this house too much to ruin it.

Thanks for asking, but… URGH! (*&*!!@!*(&!!!

Landlord's no pet policy

  • My black-hearted tenant is sabotaging our peaceful and harmonious relationship by paying zero respect to the T&C’s of the tenancy agreement (the same one that was agreed upon and signed) by attempting to overthrow the “No pet” policy.
  • The property was marketed as being NOT pet-friendly! As per routine, my advert description contained an entire section on how all animals are magical and mystical creatures, but they’re wholly unwelcome in the particular property being offered.
  • Now I’m going to look like the bad guy for tossing my tenant’s request in the bin like a used diaphragm, all because I’m sticking to the deal. The nerve of this guy makes me sick to the ball-sacks!
  • Now I’m going to have to be on full alert like an abandoned and malnourished gazelle, because I wouldn’t put it past my inconsiderate tenant to sneak Snowball in through the back doors.
  • What annoys me the most is that my tenant got a little shirty with ME and seemed bewildered for rejecting his request, even though – I’m going to say it again – I’m sticking to the deal! Un-dicking-believable! *slaps forehead*
  • I doubt it will happen, but my tenant could leverage his position [of being a long-term and faithful tenant with a super nice and fair landlord] and call my bluff, believing that I wouldn’t dispose of his carcass onto the streets even if he proceeded with getting Snowball.

    It’s a bet he could possibly win.

    Screw him and my girly weakness :/

On a side note, it’s amusing that whenever a tenant tries to negotiate a pass for a dog in the middle of a no-pet tenancy (which commonly happens), it’s always *small* and *too cute*, almost like they’re implying that I consciously chose to enforce a “no pet policy” because I was completely oblivious to the fact that small and cute dogs exist.

I know they exist, motherfucker. I also know the little-bitty one’s are the worst kind; they take twice as many dumps, they smell like old peoples’ homes (urine and cabbage), and they’re horny as fuck.

I actually have no idea if any of that is true, but it works with my narrative.

What’s my legal position if my tenant gets an authorised dog/pet?

Well, I could, of course, refuse the continuation of the tenancy at the end of the fixed term by serving a Section 21 notice and claim mandatory repossession. That would probably be the quickest and cleanest solution in my current circumstance since the end date isn’t all that far away.

That would teach my tenant. And Snowball, the flea-infested wrecking-ball!

The second (and messier) option is to try and use the breach of the “no pet” clause as a ground for eviction (specially ground 12, “Any obligation of the tenancy (other than one related to the payment of rent) has been broken or not performed.”).

Serving the Section 8 notice alone is usually enough to scare most tenants into either vacating or making Poodle-soup, and it’s a feasible option if the tenancy’s fixed end-date is in the distant future.

However, going down the section 8 route may not always work in the landlord’s favour if the tenant isn’t a total pussy and is therefore willing to drag the case to court. My understanding is, a landlord can only enforce a ‘no pet’ clause if it is reasonable/fair to do so, which largely depends on the type of pet in question. For example, a landlord will be with in his rights to refuse a large dog, especially in a small property. However, refusing a dinky little fish might be deemed “unfair”, and I doubt any sane Judge would nod the eviction through, despite the no-pet clause.

Either way, I’m not saying that repossession/eviction is the best, fairest or most practical solution, I’m just sharing what I believe the legal recall could be, just in case you’re in the dog-shitting predicament.

Why I’m not a pet-friendly landlord…

No! Wait!

That’s an irrelevant question, because the point is I made my ‘no pet’ policy clear from the beginning. That’s why my tenant’s request felt like a stab in the heart.

I thought he was different.

If I say I hate Brussels sprouts, don’t invite me around for dinner and sneak a couple of ‘sprouts into your hideous hot-pot concoction hoping I don’t notice. Believe you me, I’ll notice, and it’s your plumbing that will suffer.

YOU heartless dog hating piss-ant, you have no soul. I WILL DESTROY YOU. And your dress sense is shit.

Alright, let’s just all calm down.

I know how emotionally charged people get over their pets, especially dog owners, so I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m on the receiving end of an earful. So perhaps I should provide some clarity on my actual position when it comes to animals and pets, because it may save some of you from wasting time on crafting together a scathing and personal attack. But probably not.

I’m not an animal lover per’se, but I do appreciate and respect dogs (and every other living creature). I *probably* wouldn’t ever own a dog myself, because I lack the time and patience, and to be frank, the idea of dog hair moulting all over the place, especially on my alligator rug – which is the centrepiece of my game’s room – is debilitating.

However, on the other hand, I’m massively aware and supportive of animal rights, and can’t stomach animal cruelty of any form. Even obscenely irritating buzzing flies get guided out through an open window in my house, despite how tempting it is to smack them into an oblivion with my 10 foot pecker.

Should you accept/allow your tenant to have a dog?

Meh, it’s up to you.

I honestly don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer, because there’s legitimate pros and cons for both sides of the coin. However, if you’re anything like me – a lazy twit that does everything and anything to avoid headaches – you’d be better off nipping the idea of being pet-friendly in the butt from the get-go.

My rational for refusing pets is the same as why I don’t provide furnished property. It just means one less thing that can go tits-up. That’s all it is.

Is it discrimination to refuse pets?

ZzzzZZZzzzzzZZZ!!

Does a bear rinse its ass in a bidet?

Exactly.

Coincidentally, a couple of days ago, a hippy do-gooder (no offence if you’re reading this, Maxine) left a comment in my ‘landlord & pets guide’ blog post, with a link to a petition on change.org, titled “Stop discrimination towards tenants with pets and children!”

She said nothing else. Just posted the link. Efficient like an assassin.

If you’re all for the cause, then all the power to you- sign the thing (at the time of writing this blog post, there’s an uninspiring 620 signatures, so hopefully this extra exposure gives it the kick up the ass it needs). I’m not against the petition; it’s for a noble cause, no doubt. However, I wouldn’t touch it with yours.

BUT, WAIT!! How can you say you’re massively aware and supportive of animal rights, and then refuse your tenant the right to have a dog, you contradicting rat-weasel?

*shrugs shoulders* Probably, just like how I think homelessness is one of the sadist realities of mankind, but I wouldn’t invite a tramp to live with me. I’ll toss a few coins into The Salvation Army bucket, though.

I do appreciate the problem, and I do sympathise; a lot of good pet-owners get shafted by their evil counterparts. But at the same time I’ve had one too many bad experiences with pet-owners, and I believe I have the right to limit my risks.

But at the end of the day, MY TENANT AGREED TO THE T&C’S! I didn’t move the goal posts.. HE DID! So start a petition against him and every other goal-post moving asshole!!

If you are pet-friendly or considering it…

If you’re game, or in the midst of contemplation, here are a few nuggets to wrap your noggin around:

  • If you’re providing a furnished property, you may want to bear in mind that dogs love chewing, cats love scratching, and both love humping and spunking over inanimate objects.
  • Pet-friendly landlords are often in limited supply, so there’s opportunity to offset the risk by charging above the standard market rate. Like I said, most pet-owners are bat-shit crazy about their pets, so they’ll stump up the extra required.

    But be fair with it!

  • Demand a bigger tenancy deposit than normal, at least 1.5 x rent. You’ll probably need it at the end of the tenancy.
  • You can include a mandatory non-refundable deposit to cover the cost of professional cleaning [to scrape faeces out from under the freezer] at the end of the tenancy.
  • Throwing together a solid property inventory is always advisable, but it’s non-negotiable if your tenant comes shackled with a fuzz-ball or two.
  • Have a [fair] pet policy that tenants should adhere to.
  • You should be doing this regardless, but on the off chance that you’re a bit of a wally, you may need this gentle reminder to retrieve references from the tenant’s previous landlords (if they have one, that is).
  • In similar vain to the point above… don’t forget your regular property inspections.

    If Lassy is chewing up your carpets, you’ll probably want to know about it sooner rather than later.

  • I strongly believe that a dog is only as well-behaved as its owner. So if the dog’s a pissing-idiot, then its owner probably is, too. That’s why it’s cool to meet both owner and pet before making any decisions. Judge for yourself.
  • Whatever the animal in question, do your own research on the breed, including their genetic personality and behavioural characteristics.
  • If you have a leasehold BTL, check the T&C’s of the lease, because some state that animals are prohibited from residing at the property.
  • Consider the size of your property and the practicality of the space available. If you’re letting a shoebox flat, it would be cruel to even consider allowing a dog to reside in there. So, arguably, there is a ethical element to consider.
  • It’s no secret, I’m a gigantic advocate of 6 month tenancy agreements for new tenancies (and then permanently allowing it remain a periodic tenancy) – I think all landlords/tenants should initially strike up a 6 month deal to “see how it goes”, especially if fluffy creatures are involved.

    That way, if tits go up and skirting boards get chewed to smithereens, landlords can at least end the tenancy on mandatory grounds pretty quickly without too much fuss.

  • Don’t allow yourself to feel pressured into accepting pets if you’re not comfortable with it.

    Be warned, sob stories from tenants are commonly plentiful in order to sneak pets into the vicinity i.e. my mother is terminally ill, she can’t looked after her dog anymore.

    Yeah, really? I want to see a doctors note.

    Rely on common sense and your gut instinct. If those lack, it’s probably safer just to refuse pets without thinking too hard about it.

  • Take into consideration the lifestyle of the tenants; if they’re going to be at work all day (and/or night), bear in mind the dog/pet will most likely be left at home during that time. You do the maths!

So yeah, how about my tenant, aye? What a dick-face for putting me that position :)

Now, I await with excitement, to hear about your tenant and pet related experiences and disasters. Ideally, I’d like to hear a story that involves an unauthorised Great Dane and excrement the size of dinosaurs. That would be pretty awesome.

Love & peace xoxo

P.s A man walks into a zoo, the only animal was a dog.

It was a shitzu.

I’m laughing.

104 Comments- Join The Conversation...

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 19:35

@Sally
That sounds negligence on behalf of the agent. That's such poor service!

Like I said to Jane (in the comment above), you can't hide the smell/signs of cats and dogs. So that tells me the agents were either showing a blind-eye to the situation, or they weren't conducting regular inspections.

Glad you got rid of them.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 19:37

@MARION DARBY

Yup, I hear what you're saying, and that all sounds good in theory. But I can only reiterate what I said to Jools (comment #48): "My only issue with adding extra pet clauses is that they won't really mean much to the type of tenant I'm trying to avoid (i.e. irresponsible pet owners). For example, everyone has a clause that says pay rent on time, but how many don't?"

In any case... IT'S A NO-PET TENANCY!!! :)

*hugz*

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 19:40

@Jim Fox
Thanks Jim, appreciate it.

Dear Lord, reading that made me itchy!! Fleas is another common issue with pets that I'd rather avoid like the plague.

Thanks for sharing.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 19:44

@Phil,

Completely agree, it's really boils down to the quality of the tenant. But as said, there's also a lot to be said about minimising risks.

I literally LOL'd at your pecker/ladder comment. Keep practising your swing, you'll eventually master it :)

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 19:47

@Benji,

I'll probably still vote labour.

In regards to the proposed deposit cap, isn't it up to 6 weeks rent (i.e. x1.5 one months rent)? That's still OK'ish.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 19:54

@Adrian Ogley

Hah @ "Always so elegantly expressed"

I genuinely can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I enjoyed the sentiment either way :)

It's a good point regarding leases prohibiting pets. It's something all landlords should look into if they have a leasehold. Glen (comment #1) made a similar point about leases.

Thanks for sharing.

The cat vomit couldn't have been better timed, oh the irony! On the lino today, on the chopping board tomorrow.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 19:55

@gail
MISSED YOU TOO!!

*tight huggies*

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 20:05

@Judith Boyd
Ahh, as an agent, I bet you've got some cracking stories regarding tenants and pets!

I think Sally's point (comment #9) is crucial for agents to learn from. Her agents were either too lazy to do inspections, or too useless to the right thing.

About the agent avatar, I think I was going for a snake-oil smirk as opposed to a smile haha! No offence.

Universal credit... a blog post for another day. Stay tuned :)

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 20:07

@Phil,

How to remove a dead fly from your pecker... *ahem*... errr... get yourself excited and then... do what comes natural.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 20:11

@Paddy
Definitely a good point and a massive pro for being pet-friendly; once a pet-owner gets settled, they generally become long-term tenants. It's tough enough to find a pet-friendly landlord, and it's even tougher finding somewhere in an area of choice.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 20:17

@Shelleyb,

The worry is when they don't hand the property back in the same condition as they received it. Of course, that could be said for *any* tenant. But the odds do increase when a pet is involved from my experience, and often the deposit doesn't cover it.

But you did raise an interesting point, which I've never really considered before: "Keeping pets, particularly for single people I believe is very important."

That's actually given me food for thought. Moreover, and I have no evidence for this thought, but I suspect singletons might make better pet-owners.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 20:21

@Stephen,
I think it's an urban myth that dogs are more destructive than cats. I think it really depends, but either way, they can both ultimately be destructive.

All things considered, I think you got a fair result.

Thanks for sharing.

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Riche 24th May, 2018 @ 20:23

Great as always.
So love your upbeat blog. Keep up the good work.
I have five rentals and would allow pets in four of them as those are kinda suitable. The other is not!
However I did once and it was all good as the tenant managed. She stayed for five years without incident ( I was so lucky I guess). I always say pets with permission and take a non refundable "pet deposit", if they have/need a pet. I assess on the interview.
Ive had poor tenants as most of us have. But we hopefully learn and move on, next time thinking about the damage left behind! I know, I know
Don't get me wrong, Ive had the "damage" left behind, and it grates your very soul!! But you just got to take it on the chin and think its, its the number of the beast and move on

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 20:34

@Sue W-H

Jesus Christ. You have rendered me speechless, and that rarely ever happens.

I literally had to read your comment twice. Not just to comprehend the varied and unexpected sequence of events - like an episode of Eastenders - but also because it was just a jolly enjoyable read! I don't mean to take joy from your misery, but that was a masterpiece.

I almost want to print out your comment and frame it!

Glad to hear the property has been returned to it's former glory.

I hear 90% of CBT is done outside of therapy sessions (i.e. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"), so I hope you've been easing your way back to sanity by watching small doses of the National Geographic channel to rebuild your trust with nature.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 21:08

@Helen Hughes,
Poor dog, and awful situation for any landlord. In fact, your experience covers a lot of the classic elements all landlords fear when deciding whether they should be pet-friendly, I imagine.

I had a similar experience, but without the whole eviction part. One of my tenant's had an authorised staffie, and he used to leave it alone all day because he used to work long shifts (he was the head chef at a busy pub).

Of course, I had no idea this was going on. One day I received a call from the neighbour, informing me that they didn't want to call me, but they couldn't bear the outrageously loud barking any longer. They also mentioned that whenever they looked through the front window, which looks into the living room, there was always multiple piles of shit on the floor.

My stomach sunk.

Needless to say, I got rid of the tenant ASAP, and I had a hefty cleaning bill (which surprise, surprise, the deposit didn't entirely cover).

Yup, I'm totally with you. I think a lot of tenants automatically assume that "no-pet" policy landlords hate animals. It's really nothing to do with that.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 21:17

@Oliver Randle
I totally agree that Landlording becomes a burden when you need to resort to confrontation and abuse, and it becomes a lose/lose situation. But my point is, he asked even though there's a no-pet policy, which in itself creates a lose/lose situation.

I know I didn't make it clear in the blog post, which perhaps I should have, but I was totally empathetic and professional with how I handled the matter. I gave him the whole "I wish I could" and "I'm so, so, so, so sorry, you're a great tenant" spiel.

In any case, while I agree with your sentiments, I think your suggestion of telling him to find a new accommodation would have done way more damage. That would have been as subtle as a shotgun, and probably given him the impression that I didn't care if he stayed or left.

I always go for the friendly and touchy-touchy route first, no need to worry about that, my friend.

P.s. this is comment #69 *nudge* *nudge*

I should probably grow up.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 21:27

@Nige

I knew you wouldn't disappoint. That said, I feel like vomiting though every orifice, because I have the taste of that carpet sandwich haunting my taste buds right now. Thanks for that!

Animal lovers, man, they're like crack addicts- they'll find a way to support their habit one way or another. I've found that particularly true with reptilian fanatics.

My friend once had a social tenant that purchased a pair of insanely expensive blue lizards, not to mention the cost of the all the fancy equipment.

So, wait, have you officially sold off all your properties now and retired? Last I heard you were still in the process of unloading your junk?

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 21:38

@Maria,

Oh wow, you pretty much described the exact same experience I had, which I shared to Helen (comment #68).

"there seems to be a universal tendency of tenants not to want to stick to the terms of a tenancy contract and feel aggrieved when THEY break it"

Yup, 100%, and it's truly baffling.

I've owned a few cats in my time- their way of being suits my lifestyle more than most other animals. However, as I previously said, I think there's a common misconception with in the landlord circle, whereby it's assumed that cats are a safe bet.

And I couldn't agree with you more, pet related disasters are usually always as a direct consequence of irresponsible owners.

Great comment, thanks for sharing!

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 21:41

@Paul
I think that's a sensible way to do it if you're going to do it - build the trust first.

It's definitely always about picking the right tenant.

Urgh, she sounds proper stuck-up! I would have thanked you.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 21:42

@David Cooper
Thanks, appreciate it! We are strong in numbers :)

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 21:55

@Zoe Stradling
I genuinely didn't expect that twist- after reading the first two sentences of your comment, I was expecting a fairytale ending. with the moral being that being a pet-friendly landlord is awesome.

I guess it goes to show how quickly things can change, both people and animals.

It's not uncommon for dogs, especially older ones, to suffer from dementia, and they naturally start acting strange *shrugs shoulders*

Very sad about the dog, though. Awful.

But that's the cause behind my fears- knowing how quickly situations can unexpectedly become terrifying. So that's why I'm always trying to avoid enabling situations by simply avoiding them altogether. If the opportunities not there, it's unlikely to happen...

Like you said, they stayed for 8 years, so in the grand schemes of things, not a bad outcome. You did well.

Thanks for sharing, Zoe. Appreciated.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 22:11

@PaulP
Ha, so true about reptiles and fish having their own stinking problems. I used to have terrapins when I was little, and dear lord did they kick up a stink! Not to mention, cleaning the tank was always a messy job, plenty of spillages.

Some great tips there, particularly #1. I've added that to my list of nuggets, because there is also a ethical aspects that landlords should be conscious about i.e. landlords shouldn't allow dogs/cats in tiny studio apartments.

I hope everyone reads your list, along with Jools (comment #4). Combined together, they're a great read for anyone that's contemplating the idea of being pet-friendly.

Dogs really are smelly things! I'm probably going to get mauled for this, but... I think dog owners are pretty delusional when it comes to the odour of their beloved canines. I think they all eventually become numb to the smell, which I totally understand.

Sure, some smell better than others, but I've NEVER actually met a dog that smells "nice"

Is anyone else with me? *ducks and hides*

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 22:19

@NotSoNewbieLandlord

It's all about K.I.S.S!!!

Haha, I literally just mentioned how flipping smelly terrapins are!

You dodged a bullet with that one, son.

I used to clean my terrapin tank regularly, but it was futile, nothing can contain the smell of the sewage water they create. My entire room smelled like a diseased wasteland.

As previously said, I used to spill the rancid gunky water everywhere when cleaning the tank (spillage was unavoidable), and it would thoroughly soak into the carpet.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 22:24

@Husayn,

Agreed!

As also experienced by many of the contributors, tenants hiding their pets seems to be a very common occurrence (which isn't terribly surprising to be honest), and the deposit often doesn't cover the damage.

Thanks for sharing your experience, appreciated.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 22:33

@john cole
Thanks John, appreciate it, and I'm glad I provided entertainment value :)

If after 3 years you walk away with just a scratched door, consider yourself a winner.

There's a lot to be said about offsetting 'damage' against the 'duration' of the tenancy (assuming the tenants paid every month).

Good luck, hopefully the damage will be limited!!

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 22:34

@Linfio

Haha, cut-throat!!

I like it.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 22:51

@margaret
Damn, sorry to hear that.

I've stopped trying to understand how certain people live in the conditions they do. It doesn't cost anything to dispose of garbage or clean after yourself, yet it seems like such a struggle for some people.

"Not taking him to court as I would be too stressed and can't take any more hassle" - yup, don't blame you. I think many landlords avoid legal action for the same reason. Some times it's not worth it, especially if it's going to impact your health.

It's interesting how tenants often use sob stories to sneak their pets in, and it's definitely something landlords should be aware of. Good tip.

Many years ago, my tenant fed me a sob story about how her mother couldn't look after the family dog anymore, and my tenant was, of course, the only person that could look after it.

My naivety did me no favours, and needless to say, agreeing to allowing the dog was a decision I quickly regretted. Let's just say there was a lot of waste matter discharged from bowels in places their shouldn't have been.

Sorry to hear about your experience, but thank you for sharing. Appreciate it.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 22:53

@Jahan,

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the blog post :)

Wise decision, stay strong, my man *fist bump*

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 23:02

@J.C
Yeah, some of the stories have even made my toes curl. Now I'm terrified my tenant will sneak snowball in, for real.

Hahah, yeah, Nige's carpet sandwich description is definitely top 10 material. That comments in the 'decorating disasters' blog post were genuinely hilarious. I was laughing out loud more often than not.

For those that haven't read the comments, you should definitely check it out.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 23:18

@demonica
Completely understand where you're coming from. Nothing you said sounds unreasonable.

I'm not saying landlords are perfect- I wouldn't even dare imply it. I know many of my kind are exploiting assholes that doesn't have a shred of decency.

I'm not one to tarnish everyone with the same brush, but at the same time, I wouldn't deny landlords from exercising their choices based on past experiences (with in reason). Equally, I wouldn't deny tenants from selectively choosing what type of landlord they wish to work with.

I'm not sure where the idea that landlords/renting was a cure for homelessness came from, because I've never believed that. Being a landlord is a business (rightly or wrongly so is another topic of debate), so we need to make responsible business decisions, which may include having a no pet policy, but also treating tenants well to help facilitate long-term tenancies.

In any case, we both agree that there are two sides of the coin, and I also agree with a lot of what you said.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 23:19

@Nigel

but you know how it is, the pong lingers forever!

Hahah, Amen to that, brother! It sure as hell does.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 23:29

@Julia
That's just a prime example of tenants taking advantage of your kind nature.

They probably didn't realise how lucky they were to find a landlord that is so lenient towards pets. I bet they do now.

Generally, most tenancy agreements prohibit running businesses from the premises, unless their is explicit consent from the landlord. I don't know what they were thinking, because a dog boarding service isn't exactly inconspicuous... I guess they weren't thinking.

Evidently, not exactly entrepreneurs of the year; tagging you into their adverts was clumsy at best.

Situation well dealt with, nice one, Julia. Thanks for sharing :)

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 23:35

@Marie
Thank you very much Marie, your comment makes me feel warm :)

No probs regarding your omission, I've got your back- I fixed that mess up ASAP hah!

Yup, the comments as usual have been brilliant, albeit frightening in some cases. But definitely important for landlords, tenants and agents to learn from.

Sounds like you've got a pretty tight setup! Nothing to see there, so all good.

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The Landlord 24th May, 2018 @ 23:43

@Riche
Thanks Richie, appreciate it :)

Yeah, I think your attitude is spot on, and it's how every landlord should deal with the ups and downs- we all hopefully learn and move on (whether you're pet-friendly or otherwise).

I think a lot of the comments in this post is highlighting the process of learning and moving on. We've all got to do it.

Great comment, so thanks for chipping in!

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Stephen 25th May, 2018 @ 08:25

Great comments. I shall be adding a few to my tenantices

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HappyLandlord 25th May, 2018 @ 13:16

If a tenant wants a dog post moving in and despite a "no pets" policy there is nothing you can legally do. Therefore, the best position to be in is to advertise your property as "Pets Considered." That way, when you tenant comes to view you do have an opportunity to meet the pet in question. Also, if you have possible tenants with pets and one without, it's been declared up front and you can make a clear headed decision. Of course this won't prevent the tenant without a pet from getting one. For what its worth, my tenant pulled this trick on me and the dog was hidden for 2 years (they even live opposite me!) Once I found out I was insulted at being duped. However, the house is kept in immaculate condition, the grounds are immaculate and the tenant pays on time every month and has done for years. My advice? Be open as I would take a tenant who keeps the house spotless with a pet rather than another who lives like a hermit and the house is cluttered to hell and always keeps the curtains drawn and has a mass clear up every 6 months for the interim inspection!

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The Landlord 25th May, 2018 @ 15:53

@HappyLandlord
No doubt about it, when tenant's go against the "no pet" policy it can work out well. No denying that. However, it just makes you wonder what else are they prepared to do behind the landlords back. Dishonesty generally always creates more problems.

I do disagree that landlords can't do anything about it legally, as I've already highlighted in my blog post.

The problem with marketing with a "pet considered" disclaimer is that you run the risk of being overwhelmed with pet-owner applicants!

But otherwise, I gotta agree with your thoughts.

Thanks for sharing!

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demonica 25th May, 2018 @ 19:45

@Paul P.

"There is a simple solution to the dogs that become homeless issue you raise

DON'T GET A DOG IN RENTED ACCOMODATION.

Paul i have always had dogs and most in rented accommodation. They caused no damage to the properties at all, even the one i have now has never caused any damage. Training is down to the owners.

Not really fair to blame the owner of a property who does not get to enjoy the animal but has to have their wood floors soaked with urine or their fixtures chewed.
I do understand this, so if the property isn't for the landlord to live in, then why put those type of floors into it?
Instead you put your furniture into storage or take it with you before letting it out to a possible tenant.
I find it rather annoying when so many landlords are just ass oles never mind some tenants.
many just want the income and dont care about the tenants themselves, i have come across many in my life. They tell you how to live your life, what the place should be lived in like, what you can and cant have in the house, restrictions isnt living your life. Its called control.

How many times do you see a dog owner leave their dog mess in the park if they think nobody is watching? I spot them all the time, they are only second to smokers in being inconsiderate guilty bastards.

No need for the language,i see many dog owners leave dog mess around and not think about picking it up, yes inconsiderate but as for us smokers, yes i smoke and yes i smoke in the house to, and no my house isnt a private property either, its a housing association. Its a choice in life, and unfortunately i smoke due to of been in a bad relationship with a MAN. Just because you dont smoke or have a dog doesn't mean that we all have to be sheeps and follow.

Having a dog, even an ankle biting miniature jack russell with oversized head, is a responsibility and sometimes the best way to be responsible is to go without until you can provide a home you own.

Yes i know having a dog is a responsibility and yes i went without for 7 years without a dog, but been on my own with little company a dog is the best way of company, better than a man any day.

Even tho i have worked all my life and been a general dogs body for every one, i never earned enough to own my own home. owning your own home is more of a struggle then renting and is hard to get on the property ladder unless you have a good income or was born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
My brother owns his own property and he struggles as it is trying to pay for his mortgage and then fixing what ever needs repairing. Just seems more hastle to be an own homer then just to rent out, after all the house how ever many you own is worth nothing once your 6 foot under is it, cant exactly take it with you to the other side.

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Stealth Bomber 29th May, 2018 @ 10:23

The landlord is back, with another topic to get the juices flowing!

Good old Lets for Pets!

Depends on who you are as a Landlord I guess. If you don`t like pets of any ilk, it`s probably wiser to buy apartments, 30 floors up in the sky.

Anyone who rents out 3-4 bed houses, you have to expect, families, and kids, and sometimes pets. So make the decisions, before tenants make them for you. If you`re a landlord who is prepared to accept pets, then commit to that from the start of a tenancy, and view the family along with their animals from the outset. Granted it`s probably more of a battle if you have an existing tenant who requests pets afterwards. But it`s worth balancing out if they`re a long term, good tenant, or risk losing them. Most good pet owners are happy to pay an increase in deposit or bond, and good tenants are inclined to do the right thing, as they know pet friendly landlords are in the minority.

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Dog Deception 29th May, 2018 @ 13:58

Welcome back Landlord - we missed you!!!
As a landlord I would not be keen on accepting dogs, although my arm might be twisted for a long and reliable tenant where the dog was small and they accepted a non-refundable cleaning payment. I am friendly with a landlord who lets a property in my block. I tipped her off that her new tenants, our neighbours, seemed to be constantly taking dogs in and out of the apartment which we'd seen her fully refurb with a new kitchen, new floors etc only months before. Social media revealed they were running a doggy holiday home service (instead of putting your dog in a kennels have it looked after in someone's home). They denied this until confronted with the evidence by my landlord friend (pictures from the facebook site of a variety of dogs in situ). They only had permission to have a pug in there...

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The Landlord 30th May, 2018 @ 08:22

@Stealth Bomber
Hiiii! Yup, agreed with your 3-4 bedroom houses point, and committing to a decision from the offset. Definitely!

What baffles me are the tenants that know how pet-friendly landlords are limited, yet still cause mayhem (and then act like the victim)!

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The Landlord 30th May, 2018 @ 08:30

@Dog Deception
THANK YOU! It's good to be back. Reading the varying comments only reminds me of how this is the best landlord community online! :)

Yeah, I'm with you - I think my arm could also be twisted for a long and reliable tenant that I know I can trust. I can think of only one, to be fair ha.

Ahh the power of social media! Funny, you're the second landlord that's mentioned experiences with tenants running 'doggy holiday home service' (although yours didn't directly happen to you)!

Your landlord friend is lucky you were there to report it. What did the landlord end up doing, out of curiosity? You had me the at edge of my seat... only not to tell me the ending!!

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Jon 31st May, 2018 @ 20:04

@Riche

You sound like a decent landlord with your pet permissiveness. Your mention a ‘non-refundable pet deposit’ and I would just throw in a note of caution about referring to it as non-refundable as it is very likely that it should be protected at least according to TDS
https://www.tenancydepositscheme.com/news/blog/use-a-pet-clause-to-protect-you-from-pet-claws/

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Torrie 5th June, 2018 @ 04:38

I'm in total agreement with you. I grew up with dogs however they have always lived outside of our home (kennels, or semi-outdoor conservatories) but never indoors. It is because we know how destructive they can be - even though they could just be asking for attentions.

Currently I'm boarding in my landlord's home, and she had brought in her daughter's cat (as said daughter is going overseas for 6months). Even though said pet cat is pretty mild and well behaved for most cats, it is still annoying as this cat pees on the floors despite having a litter box (luckily it dumps its poo in the litter box though). And whenever the landlord is away I'd have to clear out its litter box and deal with its mess, feeding it, listening to it meow annoyingly to be let out or let in (arghh..!).

I'm in the process of getting my own home, and boy when I do, I'm definitely having a no pets rule - and if I do relent just a bit, and only to dogs, mind you, they'll have to be outdoors dogs, NOT indoors ones.

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The Landlord 5th June, 2018 @ 09:36

@Torrie,

Nice to read an open and empathetic point of view from the tenant, that's quite unusual! Appreciate the fact that you shared it.

I think many tenants with pets take it personally and think landlords are just plain unfair and cruel for refusing pets. When that's usually not the case.

While the majority of us want to provide comfortable living conditions for our tenants, we also need to protect our investment (obviously I don't need to explain that to you).

Thanks again for sharing.

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Catherine 26th July, 2018 @ 15:04

Landlord.
Where have you been? It's July FFS. You just keep buggering off and leaving us hanging. You're forcing me to come out of Lurkerdom and post shit.

There are some tenants who live here on my block of flats who tried owning a dog. I don't know if they were just chancers or thick as mince. I suspect the latter. The whole building of 59 flats is banned from pets. They brought this thing our into the car park every day and didn't think anyone would grass them up.

It's possible they might have gotten away with it a bit longer had they not let it use the entire car park as it's own personal toilet and left tire-marked faeces lying around in 30 degree heat. People get a bit sick of that soft of piss-taking crap.

It will never cease to amaze me how much of self absorbed bubble some people live in.

This is why, grudgingly, I do accept why landlords usually refuse pets and I'll have to accept I'll probably never own one again as long as I am stuck in rentals.

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The Landlord 26th July, 2018 @ 21:29

@Catherine,

Oh wow, that wasn't just a threat, you really did post a pile of steaming dog shit! :)

Haha, keep your hairy chest on, I've been around. Mostly melting in this ridiculous heatwave.

Not surprised people got sick of that. I'd have to agree on your diagnosis - the tenants definitely seem to be as thick as mince.

You'd think that they'd make a special effort to clean up the dog's faeces considering that they shouldn't have it in the first place.

If anything, you've encouraged me to go underground for longer periods of time, because I like it when you come out to play!

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Chris 3rd August, 2018 @ 00:57

The thing you have to realize, is that not all dogs take a piss in the flats / houses and chew on things.
If you get a reference from a previous landlord, who allowed a pet, and it's positive, I don't see a reason why you should be afraid of letting the tenant bring their pet along. Or if the tenant offers to cover the costs of repairing any damage, and/or has offered to pay more for the deposit. I understand your fears, and wouldn't like if someone lived in my house, brought a pet that is destructive, done some damage and just left. There are ways of evaluating a pet (pet interview, yeah it's actually a thing), rather than adopting a shotgun approach, and just saying NO to all pets.

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Elaine 17th September, 2018 @ 20:10

I'm a newbie here so will need your help a lot I feel! My initial problem is: I have a 'no pets' contract but my tenants snuck in 2 kittens (maybe they thought I wouldn't notice the smell from the cat litter tray that is full of feceas or the smell of urine permeating from under the newly laminated floor). I felt I had no option but to say ok. However, I did insist they get the cats spayed (I don't think the tenants will bother to do this though). The kittens have climbed through the venetian blinds in the kitchen and bedroom so the blinds are now ruined. When I do an inspection, do I mention the blinds and ask for them to repair/replace them or do I have to wait until they leave and take it out of their deposit (sadly, I don't think their deposit will cover all the repairs needed)? I will not be renewing their tenancy after the 6-months is up.

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Ben 21st September, 2018 @ 18:15

How original ... yet another bully landlord that wants the rent money and also complete and utter domination over their tenants lives .... you are entitled, disrespectful and verbally abusive towards the person you signed a contract with, contract that has been mutually beneficial for what looks like months...how dare your tenant dare breathe and sleep on the premises.... my god they might even be cooking and showering there too shreak!!! Here’s an idea how about your leave the property empty and pay your own damn mortgage each month.
Before you start making sub-intellectual assumptions about me, I own two properties and I’m currently renting one out to a lovely couple with two dogs.
I believe in treating my tenants with human decency and not forgetting the right to peaceful occupation.... something you clearly don’t know anything about

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The Landlord 21st September, 2018 @ 19:31

@Ben
Genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. It's almost like you didn't even read the blog post.

I’m currently renting one out to a lovely couple with two dogs.

So what? I've let a property where a tenant's dog crapped all over the floor. I've also let a property where a cat ripped up all the carpets. Having learned from my experiences, I'm trying to minimise my risks.

I'm not bullying anyone. I'm sticking to the terms of the tenancy agreement, which the tenant agreed upon. HOW DARE I abide by the agreement!!

Irony...

Before you start making sub-intellectual assumptions

how dare your tenant dare breathe and sleep on the premises

Exaggerating and making up nonsense. ZzzzZzzz.

No assumptions required, the proof is in the pudding.

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