My Estate Agent Nightmare: A Tale As Old As Time

Estate Agent Did This To Me

Another one bites the dust.

I’ve succumbed. I’m officially tossing my personal story onto the ‘Estate Agent Nightmare‘ scrap heap (that thing must be in orbit), even though I’m not entirely sure it’s warranted.

You know when a situation drags on for so long – and becomes so absurd – that you start wondering if you’re the delusional twit, in dire need of psychiatric treatment? I think I’ve reached that point.

At first, I was sure I was dealing with a bottom-of-the-barrel, tin-pot, donkey-sanctuary of a high-street estate agent. But they’ve been maintaining the same piss-poor level of service since day one without flinching – like it’s business as usual – and while it’s drained the life out of me and twisted me into a pretzel, I’m starting to question my own judgment. I mean, is it me? Have I just experienced regular service by today’s standards, and are my expectations out of whack?

Christ, I’m a mess. I’m seeing four of everything. Please put me out of my misery by helping me diagnosing the situation. I’ll swear I’ll accept the Jury’s decision. Unless I hate it.

Oh, and believe me, I so get it – to the outside world, the irony of a landlord complaining about estate agents is hilarious. After all, which of us is the bigger skid-mark on society, and who’s more deserving of a one-way ticket to the deepest pit of hell. Am I right?

Be that as it may, I’m riled up to the tits, so I’m going to pretend I’m speaking from some lofty place of moral authority.

I’ve been housing shopping!

Yup, I have!

Not for a buy-to-let. You must be joking. You couldn’t pay me to buy one of those. The private rental sector is a chlamydia-encrusted turd at the bottom of the ocean. It’s over.

No, just kidding.

Despite all relentless and nauseating negative press, I’m still all-in, and more convinced than ever that property should be the cornerstone of my investment strategy. And everyone else’s. But that’s a story for another day.

This isn’t about a BTL venture. I’ve actually been actively looking for a new residential home. This playboy needs a new love den. But that means I’ve had to get back on the horse and start tangoing with estate agents again. It’s been a while… but apparently, not long enough.

For a brief moment, I forgot what a roulette wheel it is dealing with agents, and I think I just took my worst spin yet. The contrast in quality is truly a sight to behold. I know the good agents catch a rough deal, and as landlords, we can obviously empathise. But holy moly, the stereotypes aren’t half accurate.

Is this normal by today’s standard, or is my estate agent a dud?

I found an absolutely wonderful property. It ticked many of my boxes, even the obscure ones I thought I’d have to compromise on.

The property is currently vacant, but it was once home to an elderly couple. Bless them, they had clearly been stewing away in the place for the better part of a century without making a single home improvement. To put it nicely, everything was “original”, and the property even features that authentic musky cabbage-and-piss stench you’d expect to encounter roaming the corridors of a retirement home.

The entire property needs airing, gutting, and a full refurbishment, and that was truly part of the appeal. It meant I’d have a blank canvas to work with.

Whether I’ll actually end up owning the property is still an unknown, but the journey I’ve been on so far feels blog-post-worthy. So, here we are.

Timeline: Trying to Buy a Home from a Mute Estate Agent

Silent Estate Agent

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Scheduling viewing

Miraculously, this was somehow easier said than done. From the outset, the estate agent managing the property raised red flags by making a pig’s ear out of even the simplest task.

I called to arrange an initial viewing, and the response I received was, “We haven’t set up our viewing calendar for the property yet, we’ll immediately get back in touch when we do”

Bro, just load up Google Calendars’ and let’s get this show on the road!

The property had been on the market with the agent for a couple of months, at least, so the obstacle was unexpected.

Three or four days pass, and I’m still sucking my thumb, waiting.

I’m done waiting, so I decide to go rogue. I break the cardinal rule and double-text. Well, double-call, in my case.

I’m greeted by the answer machine. Great. Nonetheless, a chirpy “Hey, remember me?” message is left.

Two days pass, still nothing.

I call again, answer machine.

So, like, guys, how are you even running a biz like this? This is a bit shit.

AFTER A TOTAL OF SEVEN DAYS WAITNG, Agent #1 gets in touch, doesn’t apologise for the delay, and was able to confirm an appointment slot. I love it when a plan comes together.

Shortly after I receive a confirmation email. Only the appointment time in the email didn’t match the time I was given over the phone by Agent #1.

Cool, these things happen. The doofus probably fat-fingered it while selecting the time slot on his booking system.

I call back immediately, and Agent #1 confirms that the time I was given over the phone is correct and to ignore the time in the email.

We got there in the end, but clearly not a great start. I foolishly believe things can only get better.

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Viewing #1

LOVED IT! I WANT IT! I know exactly where I’m going to display my blogging awards.

Agent #1 didn’t attend the viewing, so I was introduced to Agent #2. This guy was text-book – he’s everything you would expect an estate agent to look, sound and smell like (make of that what you will). He seemed nice enough.

During the viewing, I asked a few questions about the property that he didn’t know the answers to. He made all the right gestures to show me he was jotting them down on his phone. He assured me he’d find out and get back to me. Hold that thought.

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Post viewing #1

A couple of days pass, and there is no follow-up from the agent – no feedback request, no answers to my questions. I’m thinking that’s a little weird.

I’m genuinely curious, is it not standard protocol for agents to follow-up for feedback after viewings?

I aired my confusion (and disappointment) on Twitter, and a few disgruntled agents – along with someone deciding to play Devil’s avocado – took issue with my gripe. Apparently, I should stop wasting time being a keyboard warrior on Twitter, get off my fat, hairy arse, and be more proactive if I like the property so damn much, because agents already waste too much time dealing with tyre-kickers.

FINE! I will!

FUDGE YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PEARLS OF WISDOM!

There I was, thinking it was quite literally their job to pursue and work leads, trying to actively sell shit. I recently took a car for a test drive at my local dealership and, like clockwork, received a friendly follow-up call the very next day, just to see if I had any questions or thoughts about the experience. Just good old-fashioned sales and customer service – respectful, straightforward, and not the least bit pushy. Maybe I’ve been spoiled.

To be fair, in my defence, I never intended to remain idle – I was always planning to follow up with the agent, because I was genuinely interested in the property. I just found it odd that they didn’t reach out first, especially since I’d shown interest during the viewing… and, you know, because it’s their bloody job to actively facilitate a sale. But hey, Tomato, tomahto.

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Scheduling viewing #2

No, no one had gotten in touch with me yet after the first viewing – four days had passed.

So, I did exactly as advised – got off my rotund bottom and made the call.

Agent #1 answers, and we schedule a second viewing for the following Thursday. It’s on!

But this time, I notify him that I’m going to be taking a builder along for the ride, to get an estimate on how much the necessary renovations would set me back. Ultimately, the purchase could be unfeasible if the numbers don’t stack.

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Viewing #2

This was conducted by Agent #2 again – it was nice to see a familiar face. He somehow embodied the textbook estate agent stereotype even more than he did last time. Incredible.

He turned up late (which was fine, it happens), opened the front door, and quickly scurried into the living room, where he comfortably sank into a sofa like it was the end of a long day. It was 9am. Meanwhile, the builder and I started poking around the premises, discussing renovation ideas. Man stuff.

I never gave the builder any script or cue cards, but for some reason, he took it upon himself to get into a character – a completely ridiculous one. He started making bold and edgy statements just loud enough for the agent to hear [from the sofa he did not budge from]. It caught me off guard, to be honest.

“Ooof, yeah, that’s going to be a big job to fix.”

“Oh boy, I don’t think this load bearer in the loft meets current regulations!”

I think he was trying to help me out, but I was desperately wanting him to pipe down – I couldn’t shake the fear that the agent would think I’d put the goofball up to this low-budget, village hall pantomime. Embarrassing. Very sweet of him, though.

Oh, and Agent #2 did get back to me about my questions. That was appreciated, but I suspect the second viewing jogged his memory that I’d given him homework, which was now overdue. But better late than never, I ‘spose.

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Post viewing #2

It took three days for my builder to get back to me with a ballpark figure for the work, and in that time, once again, no follow-up call from the agent.

Come on, man. This was my second viewing, and I brought a builder with me this time. Do you need me to show up with a briefcase full of cash before you ask me anything?

I don’t actually need a follow-up call. It just felt weird and concerning that I’m the one making all the effort in this situation.

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You’ve shown no signs of wanting an offer, but here’s mine anyways!

The math ends up mathing, and now I’m itching to make an offer.

Trying not to cut off my nose to spite my face (again), I call upon the same little nugget of wisdom that’s kept me going – and make the call. Honestly, if I didn’t cook, no one would be eating around here.

An unfamiliar Agent #3 picks up this time. It was obvious I was dealing with a pup – voice as silky as chocolate mousse – probably the boss’s son, helping out for some pocket money so he could get shit-faced on a park bench over the weekend. I ask for Agent #1 or #2, but neither are available.

Okay, you’re up – let’s see what you’re made of, kid.

I submitted my offer to Agent-Pup and enquired whether it needed to be put in writing. He said it wasn’t necessary and that the vendor would be notified, with a response to follow shortly.

10% below the asking price was my offer.

I felt it was fair, considering how much work and expense would be needed to make the place liveable. The reality is, anyone who buys the property will need time and a decent cash pot to complete the essential renovations. I also discovered that the property has been on the market for over a year, but with a different agent originally.

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Offer lost in the wind

I made my offer on a Thursday, so I wasn’t expecting to hear anything until after the weekend. But then Wednesday came and passed, still tumbleweeds.

For Fuck’s sake!

What was I suppose to do again? Oh yeah, I remember. Get off arse.

Agent #1 picks up this time. I explain that I spoke to Agent #3 last week, made an offer on the property, and am still waiting for a response.

You can hear the confusion in his wavering voice, “Err, oh, erer, that’s strange. There’s nothing in our system about an offer. Err… What was it?”

*slaps forehead*

Turns out Agent-Pup is made out of hot air and zero ideas – he somehow managed to screw up the basic task of registering an offer. He needs to stop manning the phones and re-enter a training program, pronto. Mishaps like this could be catastrophic.

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Offer officially registered

Almost immediately after getting off the phone from Agent #1, I receive an offer confirmation email.

I suspect this was an automated response triggered once an offer is made and entered into their system, which is exactly what should’ve happened the first time around.

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Hey, what happened to my offer?

A week passes, and I’m dealing with more of absolutely nothing.

That’s clearly not a great sign. Was my fair offer taken as a low-ball insult, or am I just getting another taste of how this non-verbal estate agent conducts business?

I maintain my role: desperate, and just the right amount of pathetic. I call. Agent #1 picks up.

They refused the offer, and found a cash-buyer in the mean time – they offered closer to the asking price. Do you want to increase your offer?

NO, I SHITTING DO NOT!

I think I may have briefly flatlined. My inner voice was screaming, “Why on God’s green earth didn’t you contact me to notify me that my offer was rejected? Are you a fucking moron? [rhetorical question]”

*deep breaths*

I didn’t increase my offer, but I politely asked to be kept informed if anything changes, and also raised the issue of the lacklustre communication so far. It was acknowledged, and I received an apology.

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Fine, take more money! You’ve already taken my soul.

Another week or so passes without a word, so I can only assume the cash buyer is still in the game. Not ideal, because I’m still interested. I decide to fold like a wet biscuit and slightly bump up my offer (by approx. 3% of my initial offer) – a final Hail Mary, hoping to snipe the accepted one. I hadn’t planned on getting into a bidding war, and I was adamant about avoiding any games by going straight in with my best offer. Looks like I’ve deviated and moved onto Plan B.

Agent #2 picks up this time, and literally before I can get a word in edgeways, he enthusiastically says, “Hey, sorry I haven’t been around, but Agent #1 has notified me that you made an offer on the property. The vendor is still thinking about it, so I’ll let you know.”

Err… okay?! What the hell just happened? I have no idea, but I go with it.

I didn’t even get to increase my offer (LOL), and now I’m left wondering if the elusive cash buyer ever even existed, or if there’s been some kind of mix-up. Either way, I’m feeling re-energised with a glimmer of hope.

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Another lonely week passes

Non-verbal estate agent continues to non-verbal.

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Hello? Anyone home?

Now officially at peak pathetic, I dial like I’m chasing the love of my life – who couldn’t care less.

Agent #1 picks up, and I remind him I’m alive and well (he has no clue I’m putting on a façade and dying inside because of him).

“Oh, hey there, bear with me, I’ll find out and let you know what’s happening with your offer.”

Yeah, will you really, though?

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“So that’s what a phone is used for!”

Other than the soundtrack of my pitiful tears rolling down my mug, it was radio silence for another few days or so. By this point, I’d pretty much given up hope, and had lost the will to keep calling like a crazed-ex sending suicidal messages, only to get nothing in return. I’d made peace with the idea that, for whatever reason, some greater power just doesn’t want me to own this property.

Then, out of nowhere, Agent #1 calls. It’s a bloody Christmas miracle – in May.

There you go, Agent #1, you finally managed to remove the bondage ball-gag out of your pie-hole and figure out what that ringing device on your desk does. Brilliant.

“Sorry, the vendor has accepted a higher offer. Do you want to increase your offer?”

(I hold back my frustration, and refrain from pointing out that their business practise seems inspired by a clown show, and even that felt like an insult to clowns.)

“How much was accepted?”

“Closer to the asking price!”

“How much closer?”

I attempt to elegantly pry it out of him, but he’s determined to keep his cards close to his chest. Fair enough.

It was hard to tell if I was being played like a fiddle, but either way, I did increase my offer, to the final Hail Mary figure I’d originally planned before being told my first offer was still under consideration. I can’t help but wonder if that was all a mix-up with someone else’s offer, and mine was never actually in the running. If that’s the case, would things have turned out differently if I’d managed to submit my second offer as I’d originally intended, before being stopped in my tracks? This will haunt me.

“Hey bro, just a reminder: I’m in a strong position – I’m ready to move immediately, chain-free, finances sorted (and if you continue with this tinpot service, I’m going to write a really mean blog post about you!)”

“Okay, I’ll remind the vendor and let you know the outcome.”

(I doubt you will, but thank you.)

Non verbal estate agent

So that’s where we are, 60’ish days later.

Isn’t that batshit crazy? I’m genuinely baffled.

To be clear, I don’t think there has been one isolated incident that was jaw-droppingly unbearable, it was more the relentless accumulation of the agent’s non-existent communication and effort that finally sent me doolally. My timeline doesn’t even include all the calls that went straight to answer machine, and the multiple voice messages that went ignored. Death by a thousand cuts.

Sure, I get that there’s probably some juggling involved with multiple buyers, waiting to see who pulls through with the highest offer, massaging higher bids out of us, and even insider shenanigans, but even so, this just feels like mindless monkeying around. Not to mention rude.

One of the biggest issues, I think, is that I was dealing with a rotating cast of agents, and no one seemed to be communicating with each other or reading from the same script. I’m genuinely convinced they confused me – and my offer – with another buyer, at least once. Possibly twice.

Shit-show.

In my mind, the real victims here is the seller that unknowingly entrusted these donkeys with the sale of their property. It’s not just that they seem disinterested, it’s like they’re actively working against their client’s best interests. Why aren’t they even following-up on lukewarm leads?

It really wouldn’t surprise me if, after all the faffing around, the vendor ends up losing more money than if they’d just accepted my original low-ball offer. We could have had this deal wrapped up in a bow ages ago. A tale as old as time.

Needless to say, one thing is absolutely certain: I would never use this agent to sell my house.

This experience has been a stark reminder that not all estate agents are cut from the same rag.

As a seller, if you go down the high-street estate agent route, choosing wisely can be the difference between a quick sale or a drawn-out one, and a profitable outcome or a disappointing one.

I consider feedback after every viewing essential, and I’d question any agent who fails to provide it.

Even good agents make misjudgements and mistakes, but because they’re proactive, they’re able to pivot and adapt quickly (whether the vendor is willing is another question altogether).

On a side note, this whole debacle reminds me of why there’s a growing market and strong case for online estate agents, where sellers hold the reins, and benefit from a service at a fraction of the traditional cost.

Man Baby Landlord

Up to this point, I feel like I’ve been indulging some twisted fantasy – biting my lip, playing along like a submissive man-baby. I know that if I want the property, it’s probably in my best interest to keep smiling and dancing to the agent’s off-beat rhythm. As they say, keep your friends close, and your donkeys closer. But boy is it painful, FFUUU()*&!)(*&!!

*deep breaths*

Will I get the property? No idea.

Seriously, am I just that walk-in customer kicking off because they got seated too close to the pisser on a busy night, or am I genuinely dealing with a dud estate agent?

Landlord out xo

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Martin 21st May, 2025 @ 06:34

Interesting tale, all to familiar for the dog end of a group of 'parasites'... oh, hang on - isn't that term exclusively intended for us...

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Clive 21st May, 2025 @ 09:15

This is so typical in my experience, one Estate Agent did not know anything about a house that was on her books! I had to convince her she was selling the house??!! Then I put an offer in for a house with a different agent, and they charge me £80 for the privilege!!?? WTF??

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SB London 21st May, 2025 @ 09:29

Oh dear. Pay the £7 to look up owner on HMLR. Find their contact details. Ring agent and ask “You’re taking too long. Would it help if I contacted the owner directly? I have their details.”

If nothing happens, contact owner directly. Visit neighbours if this is proving difficult. Remember the agent just represents the owner. Nothing more.

You don’t owe the agent nada.

We’ve done this numerous times, especially when we can’t get a viewing and the agent is clearing trying to pave the way for a mate (illegal, but we are talking estate agents - IQ of chairs). Twice we’ve had the owner come to do the viewing. Once the agent suddenly decided to let us view after saying the property was sold.

Always look up Ombudsman guidance and quote it back at agent. Eg. “ An Estate Agent must disclose all offers to a Seller promptly and in writing. Furthermore, The Property Ombudsman (TPO) scheme requires agents to confirm with the potential buyer that their offer has been forwarded to the Seller.”

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Henry S 21st May, 2025 @ 09:31

Terrible.
-As you've recorded most of the facts, why not complain to the estate agents ombudsman, seeking compensation for your time and trouble (as the agents didn't put any in, as one would normally expect (and in doing so potentially harm their client's interests)).
-If you still want the place, perhaps you could find identity the seller, perhaps through land registry (?) or more likely via probate records (if house has been on the market for about a year, presume probate done and dusted)? Tell them how shite the agents are and doing them no favours; giving your offer direct and saving them the agents fees (if you can avoid "carefully" the contract they may have signed including the agent 'introducing' you - with such shite service there may be a way).
--But guess both may gave been through your agent-crazed mind.

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Tony Holmes 21st May, 2025 @ 09:36

I know this is not 100% related, you being the buyer, but I encourage every seller to use Purplebricks.
Yes you need to show people around, I just left them to look around themselves and waited outside.
I recently sold a flat with PB and they were brilliant
They contact the viewers for feedback within 24 hours. Keep checking in on me and the best thing is that viewers and vendors have direct messaging channels using the app.
It’s been a god send

The buyer’s solicitor, well that’s a whole different story!!!!

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Kimjones 21st May, 2025 @ 09:36

I had a similar situation last year, turns out the property had to go through probate, they didn't let me know there wasn't a will! (Had already been on the market with anotger agent). They were in a position where they could pretend there were other buyers just to get a higher price as they knew probate was going to take a while. You could pop round to property, knock on neighbours, ask about area, casually explain said difficulties, see if they know the sellers and get a message to them. Alternatively go on land registry and see if the owners are listed, send a private and confidential letter? I did manage to buy the property I spoke of, but due to estate agents not being truthful, it took 8 months of hell, I had already sold my property, belongings in storage, daughters living in air bnb's as didn't want to sign up to a tenancy agreement to rent, I was living with friends, absolute nightmare. Never again, next time I would insist on meeting with the sellers at the property to ask questions before offering, the estate agents just lied the whole way through just to secure a sale, as I found out when I finally met the daughter of deceased. If your offer is accepted, get your solicitor to find out the exact situation before paying for searches etc

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Stal 21st May, 2025 @ 09:54

Exactly same sort of thing I have just experienced in the last 2 months searching for my own residential propoerty. The lack of communication is deafening, constantly having to chase things up. I could easily run a better show with 2 trained school leavers. Unfortunately Estate Agents aren't the only piss poor relations, seems to be most businesses nowadays. We've actually resigned to the fact that this is the norm and when anyone does anything remotely expected of them I'm out singing their praises!

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Eleanor 21st May, 2025 @ 09:55

Not uncommon sadly. It's a buyers market and things are quite slow, so you'd hope these incompetent agents would go out of business. Very frustrating for buyers, but tragic for the hapless vendors of said properties who will be blissfully unaware of how useless their agent is. Staff shortage? Lack of training? Who knows. Would you want these numpties telling you how much your house is worth? Definitely not!!

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DAVID 21st May, 2025 @ 10:01

Dear Landlord, as a fellow Landlord I have experienced exactly same on the other side of the story ...... but worse. I used my Estate Agent to try to sell my one of my 2 rental properties ( yup I have finally had enough) and after seeing their sales details I wasn't happy with their description and therefore told them what I wanted ...... only to be told and I quote " Right Move wont allow you to put that in the description!"
W T F! I started off calmly explaining I wasnt dealing with Right Move but you (my LOCAL Estate Agent) A very long protracted discussion followed and it seems big brother is alive and well and living disguised as a Estate Agency version of compare the small furry cuddly animals that actually devour their own young!!!!!

BTW the word I wasnt allowed to use was "Economical" referring to a relatively newly installed fully serviced Combination Boiler with 8 years warranty of its 10 year warranty still to run.

Also BTW no viewings achieved. Ended up renting it again. So my life sentence is still running with no immediate signs of an early parole!

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Alistair 21st May, 2025 @ 11:05

Thats why its been on the market for months, pure incompetence of the Estate Agent. Either higher ups dont know how idiotic their staff are, or theyre floating around in so much cash they dont know what to do with it. I would write them a review on Google, that really gets their attention (anonymously of course), maybe once its all over so you can warn any Sellers about the shit show of a company.

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Akesh 21st May, 2025 @ 11:39

I have had the exact same experience but with an added twist, they didn’t even come back to me on my offer as they couldn't get hold of the vendor but later find out the property got marked as sold to be turned into an air bnb, something smells fishy. They’re as corrupt as the politicians that supposedly run our country but thats for another day :-)

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Yashamatoto 21st May, 2025 @ 13:09

Yo Landlord

Probably like you, I’ve bought & sold a fair few ‘cribs’ in my time and can’t recall many that were an easy, straightforward process (why is that?).
But in particular you brought to mind one specific experience.

Found a property with great potential.....contacted agent.
The technology of the phone working both ways, to receive and make calls was also absolutely lost on this one agent as well and each time I called was really just being fobbed off.
…..I smelt an ‘orrible stinky rat!

Couldn’t get the mountain to come to Muhamad, so this proverbial muhamad went to?…. The agent’s offices…No ….the seller, yes!

Knocked their door, really old couple (but probably younger than me) in this extreme stench of a typical 50’s temporary home (so well past it’s ‘use by date’), where every room had sticky carpets, furniture etc and decades of brown nicotine stained walls, where the lady proudly showed us in one room her rose flowered wallpaper of some 60++ years ago (I say ‘showed’ but took her word for it unless she meant the repeat pattern of darker blobs of brown) either way she was convinced this was a value added enhancement to the property! Anyway I’m digressing, as much as I'd like to tell you more about this pig’s ear of a home that was only ripe for development…so right up my street then.

Cut to the chase, they had a buyer via this agent but nothing had really happened in months.
Bit more digging and I found this ‘buyer’ was related to the agent, hence presumably the agents tactics of dissuasion. (Maybe this is, what you were experiencing???)

Sellers were keen to move to I-O-W and were in a tizzy over the whole process of buying and selling property, established their offer price and offered a bit more (but not as much as I had been prepared to go to) and as a sweetener to remove some ’tizz’ agreed to pay their legal costs, so they could relax knowing exactly what their net return would be.

Of course agent was incandescent but ultimately nothing he could do, he was well outside his 60 day sole agent contract and he had a buyer that still couldn’t proceed. And because he had presumably been so successful in dissuading other potential buyers he had no backup plan either.

There’s a follow on story to this, where I later sold the property on to a developer without actual planning permission but at a price commensurate as having PP but I won’t bore you with that now.

Your experience with that particular numpty agent seems too consistently inefficient to not have a backstory, otherwise how would/do/did they survive?

Nowadays, agents have to declare a connected interest when selling a property but not aware they have to when they have any involvement on the buying side, after all ‘offers’ are protected by various bits of legislation, not least data protection blah, blah, blah.

Might be worth your while in talking to the buyer direct, why not?
Not saying it works every time but you’ve nowt to lose and maybe either way you may find out more about your numpty agent’s m.o.

Good luck and keep up the good work

Cheers

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Jeremy 21st May, 2025 @ 13:44

One word ... Franchise Agency.

At least it sounded like it. I know 2 different good ones which were father and son setups.

Was it a franchise angency you were dealing with ?

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DavidS 21st May, 2025 @ 14:02

Oh estate agents are universally piss poor in my experience. A classic case of "promise everything, deliver nothing"

Back in the noughties I sold a house in Basingstoke. The agent promised above average selling price on the basis of out of area selling. When they failed to produce viewings or buyers they resorted to the classic "well consider lowering your price". Well of course I can give it away, but that's not the objective! I've had this multiple times with other properties - overly optimistic valuations followed by advice to lower the price. Yes, anyone can sell a house for a knockdown price! The thing that really grates is the huge commission that bears no relationship to effort to sell.

The other big problem I've faced with estate agents is terrible "after sales" service and communication. Once the offer is accepted, the agents stay inserted in the process as the sole conduit to the seller, and in my experience they are at best a roadblock and at worst put the sale at risk. One was a purchase which was going to rely on selling my house which fell through and required a pivot to a B2L mortgage. I dilligently relayed the situation, and progress of applying for and getting the B2L mortgage, as well as the residential mortgage and all the milestone dates to the agent, who then didn't bother updating the seller who almost walked away because they didn't think anything was happening. I eventually spoke to the seller the week before moving day when I asked to view it again to measure up for furniture and they said they'd heard almost nothing from the agent except to ask for the survey.

If commissions were more closely linked to service and not money for old rope, the process might be better, but I think to really make buying/selling a tolerable experience, you need to take agents out of the post sale process (sorry but your fee will have to reduce!). The French system seems to work, with a neutral (government) solicitor handling the legals, but we're not really setup over here for that.

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Mirjana 21st May, 2025 @ 15:18

It sounds to me like a probate property. The estate agent dragging their feet waiting for the probate to go through while playing both sides.

Admittedly, that estate agency sounds dreadful. I would have been onto their complaint process quicker than they can say "property".

On a positive note, not all estate agencies are bad. We have been working with our high street agent for over 15 years, sold our residential house for more than the asking price (!) and their owner is available for a phone call and advice any time we need for our rental properties. Fantastic service!

Hang in there. If it is meant to be it will happen. If not, walk away and something better will come soon. Love dens come in various shapes and sizes, keep your mind open ;-) Good luck, keep us updated.

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NotSoNewbieLandlord 21st May, 2025 @ 15:44

Creasing with laughter at this...you have such a way with words! 😂
Unfortunately, it is not you: this seems to be how businesses operate in England these days. Shocking times.

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Brian Morris 21st May, 2025 @ 17:34

I have one property with one tenant, on whom I have expended endless worry and bad temper....and they are really nothing on the scale of bad tenants -- pretty clean, only occasionally violent in a half-hearted way, and they're half-willingly on their bikes.

I've always found tenants by word of mouth, never used an agency. I've known and liked this tenant for a few years and offered the property to them last year gladly. They change a bit once they're in situ, don't they? Some of them....

Anyway, I've dealt with two estate agencies in 40 years (buying and selling houses): one of them was OK, one of them was very good -- Jarvie of Yellow Brick Road, take a bow.

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Nobody in Cambridge 21st May, 2025 @ 20:59

When we have brought properties, our experience with estate agents in Cambridge specifically, has been mostly positive. Technology is being well utilised for managing enquiries, making appointments, making offers/giving feedback etc. I don't always agree on their tactics when it comes to making offers and bidding, but if you manage to strike a decent relationship with them, they tend to be helpful.

Buying in London however, is more akin to your experience in the blog. Just bloody awful in terms of experience.

Just wait until you get to the conveyancing stage though, the whole system and process is a joke. It's one thing I'm begging AI to takeover and rid all incompetent solicitors.

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Dizzy 21st May, 2025 @ 21:47

That is just plain appalling and if they are members of NAEA you need to make a formal complaint.
BUT before you read further, let me tell you - I am a residential conveyancer with nearly 5 decades of resi conveyancing and your story does not surprise me, sadly.
I have been well known in the area I live since 1997 and know many of the Agents - you think that would be a bonus when I wanted to sell - NOPE!! I have had Agents like to me so many times! Face to face lies, which I have actually had documentation to disprove - like a Newton Abbot agent who told me a very interested viewer had not been in contact again and never put an offer forward. Odd that, I knew enough from the viewer to track him to his home and speak to him - the agent had been ducking his calls and then when he finally got through was incredibly evasive. Offer was made - never passed to me. Oh and by the way, having said do not send anyone who is not yet marketing or is marketing and not got a buyer, or not got mortgage approved in principle. First people that agent sent around were not even marketing! Nonetheless he put their offer forward and surprise surprise they were going to instruct that same agent to market - two bites at the cherry!!! Took a friend with me to agent - agent totally denied the entire situation, in front of my friend, a professional man well known in the town. Stupid agent - I got a copy of the second offerer's phone account downloaded to me and could prove the calls were made! Oh boy did he have to backpedal, but even so was tangling himself in lies!
Another time, we knew our newly renovated home would sell quick, went to an Open House viewing and put an offer in. That agent insisted on coming to view our house and talked me in to signing up with them to market, saying it would put me in a good position with the other seller who had not yet decided which buyer's offer he was accepting. That idiot agent went out to his car, pulled his phone out, and in plain view of my lounge window rang me to say that he had just heard the seller had gone with another buyer!! What - are you psychic - I can see you from my lounge and you have not received any calls. You have just taken your phone out to ring me so you damned well lied to me. I am watching you - tear that contract up now - I will not use a company that lies to get sales, I do not trust you and I will make sure none of my friends or clients get a recommend to use you. I am also making a formal complaint to your Manager.
Now all these guys knew me, knew what my profession is - did it never cross their mind to go above and beyond and be totally honest, knowing I could recommend a lot of work their way?

Those are not the only instances of dishonest Agents but I won't go on - there are very few that I truly trust 100% sadly because of 50 years of buying and selling and dealing daily with Agents :-(

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Mark D 21st May, 2025 @ 21:47

Bit off topic, but in my experience solicitors make estate agents look almost professional in comparison.

Sold my property to my tenants, and because it was a very straightforward sale did the conveyancing for my side.

Buyers solicitors completely useless, and actually lied repeatedly to their clients (my tenants).

Kept telling their clients they were waiting on responses from me, but had never sent anything.
I provided all the law society forms on day one, and after about a month I get an email asking me to provide them!!!

Responded to all queries same day, but guess what, whenever their client calls for a progress update they are waiting for a response from me, don't think so.

Then they charge my tenants, an extra (undisclosed previously £400, for having to deal with an amateur).

On completion day they e-mail me, the vendor, asking me when I'm going to transfer the funds to their account.

Off topic, but conveyancers and solicitors are from the same gene pool as estate agents.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 09:57

Hi all,

Thanks for all the feedback, folks, much appreciated. However, it's depressingly reassuring to hear that my saga is now the industry "new normal"; if that's true, we've got no chance.

A few people asked the same questions, so here are the answers in one place:

1) Contacting the vendor directly
I'd love to; I thought about it soon into the journey (when red flags started popping up); but finding them is a non-starter. The owners are apparently retired abroad, and their two adult children insist everything goes through the agent. That's the official line, anyway. Seems convenient, no doubt.

2) Speak to the neighbours
Done.

The place is tucked away in a tiny village in the absolute arse-end of nowhere. There's only one neighbour (and the house isn't that close), and he moved in after the owners left. He knows nothing.

3) Probate property
The thought occurred, all the hallmarks are there. But I'm leaning toward another theory: a local developer is quietly working a back-door deal with the agent. The house has serious potential for extension and renovation, so that wouldn't surprise me.

Either way, I still can't justify the agent's spectacular lack of communication. It's maddening.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:00

@Clive

Ha, I actually think that's happened to me before - an agent thought I was enquiring about a property they weren't selling.

You got charged to put in an offer? That's bonkers! How did they justify that?

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:04

@SB London

Thanks. I addressed a few of your points already.

As for my offer not being passed on, I don't think it was intentional, more likely just down to that particular agent's inexperience. That said, it probably still constitutes a breach of TPO guidelines. To be fair, when I raised the issue with Agent #1 (who was clearly more senior), he seemed quite bothered by the omission — likely because he realised they may have already crossed the line on their consumer obligations.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:08

Hi & thanks @Henry S

A few people have suggested lodging a complaint with the TPO, and honestly, I think it would be justified. But I'm also weighing up whether it would actually help my situation right now.

I might still go down that route eventually, but for the moment, I'm holding off to see how things play out. Since the case may still be live, I'd rather keep the agent somewhat on-side, at least for now.

Your other points have been addressed (comment #21).

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:10

@Tony Holmes

Agreed! And I do mentioned that in my blog post:

this whole debacle reminds me of why there’s a growing market and strong case for online estate agents (e.g. Purplebricks), where sellers hold the reins, and benefit from a service at a fraction of the traditional cost.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:31

Yo @Yashamatoto

Hahah, holy crap, I can relate to so much of your story. Not just with my current saga, but past ones too.

I've been to so many viewings where the proud owners thought their decor was some sort of "value-added enhancement", and meanwhile I'm standing there thinking, 'That's the first thing I'd rip out.'

Totally agree, the level of incompetence I've experienced just feels... off. It doesn't seem normal or even remotely feasible for a company to operate like this, not even one scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Like I mentioned in a previous comment, I genuinely think there's some backdoor shenanigans going on with a local developer or something along those lines.

That said, I still think I have a shot - deals like this fall through all the time. So I'm holding out (slightly jaded) hope.

I've already addressed the whole "contact the vendor directly" issue, and why it's a tricky situation, in comment #21.

Thanks for sharing your story, it gave me a good chuckle!

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:35

Hi @Jeremy,

You'd think, huh? If I were hearing this story from someone else, I'd assume it involved one of the big name franchises - the ones known for their piss-poor, impersonal service.

But it's not. And that's what makes the whole thing even more baffling. It's actually a small, local independent agent.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:45

Hi @DavidS

You hit the nail on the head with all of your points, I'm in total agreement.

Unfortunately, I think that kind of behaviour is just standard practice for many agents: overvaluing the property to widen the seller's eyes and hook them in. Once the service agreement is signed, the inevitable price drop follows, usually justified with the all-too-convenient excuse of "market conditions". It's just textbook at this point.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:48

Hi @Mirjana,

Many thanks, and I definitely agree, not all agents are the same. It's just a shame I ended up with a dud that's managing a property I actually really like.

That said, I've come to terms with it. Whatever's meant to happen, will happen.

So for now, I'm just sitting tight and seeing how this all unfolds. I'll definitely post an update if anything changes.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:54

Hi @Nobody in Cambridge

I think the issue in London is that it's largely dominated by the big-name agents, and they're relentless. Most of them have strict targets to hit, and it's a classic dog-eat-dog workplace. The ethos tends to be profits first, service a distant second.

Oh yeah, I know all too well what a dumpster fire the conveyancing process is. Totally agree, it's long overdue for an overhaul, ideally with AI and blockchain tech. The way property ownership is transferred in this country is a joke.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 10:59

@Dizzy

Those stories are mental, actual psychopaths!

As I mentioned in my first comment, it's just sad that this kind of behaviour seems to be the norm now (based on everyone's feedback). I know there are still good agents out there, but they seem to be becoming a rare breed. And that's the real shame, because people's livelihoods are literally on the line.

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The Landlord 22nd May, 2025 @ 11:07

Hi @Mark D

Oh, I believe it. I've had some absolutely shocking experiences with conveyancers in the past, from losing documents to blatantly lying about receiving emails, and then refusing to take any accountability. Genuine sociopaths at work.

I used to try and find the cheapest "online conveyancer" as possible, and it rarely went smoothly. One thing I've definitely learned: you usually get what you pay for when it comes to conveyancing. A good conveyancer is worth their weight in gold, especially when you're dealing with anything remotely complex. It's not uncommon for chains to collapse because of delays or incompetence on their part.

Like I mentioned earlier, I think the whole transfer of ownership process in this country is a hot mess. It's far more convoluted than it needs to be.

I'm really interested to hear more about your experience managing the conveyancing yourself - how did you even know where to start? And how did you find the whole process?

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Jenn 22nd May, 2025 @ 19:32

I feel your frustration. Perhaps there are good estate agents out there, ones with intelligence and integrity, but I have to go back to 2014 which is the last time I came across one. The situation you are in really is ludicrous. As has already been mentioned if they were so utterly incompetent they would be out of business. Our best one was the agent who was asked by the viewers about parking. It was permit parking which we had explained to the estate agents beforehand . This numpty didn’t just say he didn’t know, he actively made a point of telling the viewers how difficult parking would be as it was so close to the rail station!!

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