Interview With Ajay Ahuja
This article was written on 10 Nov 2009
It was only last week that Ajay Ahuja appeared on “Inside Out” for allegedly being a dirty little scam artist. Since then his name has been running riot on the property circuit. While he’s still hot topic, I thought I’d try and get my filthy little mitts on him; giving him the opportunity to give us his version of the truth. Because let’s face it, the media isn’t going to give us both sides of the story…
For those that don’t have a clue what the hell i’m talking about, refer to, Ajay Ahuja On Inside Out, London- Property Scam, for the catch up! A lot of my questions are referenced from the investigation on “Inside Out”, which you can watch from the link I just provided.
The Interview
1] After watching the video and reading your response to the video on your blog, I actually sympathised with your situation, because it was clearly a one-sided show (regardless of whether or not you are a scam artist- everyone deserves a fair trial). However, I have to ask, have you noticed any affect on your business since you appeared so negatively? E.g. have any of your current clients mentioned anything, or pulled out of deals because of it?
Funnily enough no reaction from our client base. Most did not see it as it was a regional programme. Our current client base are happy with our service. If anything we saw a little surge in business.
2 a] In one particular case shown in the video, you offered one guy a property that was worth £150,000, but the Ahuja Group said it was worth £247,000, and you were able to give it to him for £177,000. My maths isn’t the best, but had he of taken you up on that offer; he would have gotten royally fucked. Agreed? Yes or No?
Firstly the flat they showed him was not the flat we sourced him. If you watch the programme they say “similar” flat. The flat we sourced him was on the ground floor which is a bigger and better flat!
Secondly in Scotland you HAVE to have the property surveyed before you can market the property. It is called a Home Report. The recent survey we had from a RICS surveyor was at £247,000. This would have enabled craing to buy that property no oney down. The person they had on the TV was an Estate Agent NOT a surveyor.
2 b] Your explanation was that you used a 3rd party source and they used some surveyor to price it up. I’m assuming that wasn’t the first time you used a 3rd party source. So essentially, a lot of your clients could be unknowingly sitting on properties that aren’t actually BMV. I’m sure a lot of your clients didn’t bother getting a second professional opinion like the guy did in the video. I’m sure you disagree…and this is where you explain why my instincts are wrong…
BMV is a mechanism to buy properties no money down. You need the survey to be in excess of the purchase price. The surveys are carried out at arms length by a chartered surveyor. Market value is subjective hence the problems but the KEY part of it all is minimising your cash input to a deal.
ANYONE can come and put a market value on any properties you own with a plus or a minus 40% to what you think it is worth. Market value can be:
- Forced sale value
- Auction value
- What someone is willing to pay for it
- Recent sales price
- A price per sqft of recent sales
- A commercial price to earnings value
There are so many ways you can value a property hence the disparity. All we try and do is be prudent. We give the client our opinion (which they know is only an opinion) and recent sale prices of similar properties. Our clients are EDUCATED PROPERTY INVESTORS so it is for them to come to a decision. We present data.
3] The guy from Landlord Action, Paul Shamplina, mentioned that there are many more pending cases from unsatisfied customers. So I assume there are more rough times ahead for you. Can you shed any light on these cases? Do these people have legit cases against you?
No one has legit cases on me. Judgements were found on me in default. No court case has ever taken place. I am in the process of setting these judgements aside and I will be defending these in court. Watch this space.
Investment is never an exact science. When things go wrong which have nothing to do with us people like to sue us. Take for example a property we find and then:
- The tenant stops paying the rent
- The roof needs repairing
- The boiler needs replacing
This happened over a period of 12 months. Is this the property sourcer’s fault? If the tenant lost their job is this our fault? The survey did not indicate there was a problem with the roof. We do not inspect roofs! Is this our fault? The boiler broke down. Things happen. That is part of being a landlord. We do not assume the risk of ownership. We just find high yielding deals.
4] Have you been in touch with the BBC before or after Inside Out was aired? If so, what was said? Were any harsh words exchanged? Did you punch anyone in the face (or want to)?
Please see what we sent the BBC. Visit:
http://www.ahuja.co.uk/cp/uploaded/Response%20to%20BBC%20Inside%20Out%20Final.pdf
5] There was a bit of confusion about the whole mailing address thing, and for some reason, the media tried to make it appear sinister. So clear it up for me, why do you have a mailing address, with no offices or assets? Do you actually have any physical offices where your employees operate from?
They were outside my offices! I have a contract with a company who provide all my staff. There are 10 on the payroll. This company lease space of a company called Amphenol. Amphenol are a military contractor. When a camera turns up to a military location all hell breaks lose. They would not let the BBC cameras in under any circumstances. The company I contract got in to trouble with Amphenol and I had to remove the word “Amphenol” from my website. This is why I removed the address from my site. I still have my office and we are still very much open and operating for business.
6] The Ahuja group source properties that are BMV to those that are willing to pay for the leads. But you don’t actually give details of the properties until you have received payment. With a business model like that, don’t you think you’re opening yourself up for a lot of dissatisfaction? Don’t get me wrong, I think the people who invest in such schemes and then complain are idiots, because they knew the score/risk. And if they didn’t, that’s their problem.
Imagine if it was the other way round. We market a deal, 10 clients say they are interested and we give them the address. I can assure you that when one of those 10 say they want the deal the deal will be sold. This is because one (or more!) of the other 10 have gone behind your back and gone straight to the owner and bought the deal. Its called cutting out the middle man. We do not have exclusivity on our deals or if we do it is only for 48 hours max. We have learnt the hard way so we NEVER disclose the address.
My business is for proper investors. I buy properties based on 2 variables:
- Property size
- Price
I do not need pictures, post codes, condition etc. I own 200 properties but probably have only visited half of them I do not need to see them. If a surveyor thinks they are mortgageable and worth the money then that is good enough for me. For my clients we present as much info as we can but most of our clients do not need to visit either. Its bread and butter properties. 1/2/3 bed flats and houses in small towns and cities. Nothing more than £80,000 most of the time. Very boring properties!
7] Are you still worth 15m, even in today’s climate? Because I swear you’ve been supposedly worth 15m for some time now, even before the recession. Surely you’ve lost a few bags of change along the way. Don’t worry, if it makes it any easier- you, your wife and I can hold hands and all say it together, “the recession has made me less valuable”
My portfolio stands at 194 properties. I do not carry out valuations on them but lets say they were worth £15m at the peak. A 20% reduction has been seen max over the last 2 years. So worst case scenario a reduction of £3m. So £12m to £13m value probably. Maybe a bit more.
8] Stretching from the previous question, I’m just going to ask straight out, ARE YOU STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY? I’ve read that you’re not as comfortable as you used to be due to the recession. I made a facetious comment in my previous post about you driving an old shape Benz, which didn’t seem to fit the lifestyle of a man worth £15m.
Is there any truth in your financial struggle? Or perhaps we’ve all got it wrong, and you’re still living life like P-Diddy.
Let me put it like this. Back in 2007 my rents were £55k and my mortgages were £40k and I lived in a 4 bed house.
In 2009 my rents are £60k and my mortgages are £16k and I live in a 8 bed house. That’s £44 gross per month!
The car you saw was one of my cars. I also have a Porsche Cayenne Turbo and my wife drives a Smart Brabus Convertible (her dream car).
I love old Mercs. The old Merc you saw is a CL500 and I love it more than my characterless Porsche!
(Here’s a pic of P-Diddy and his sweet pimp ride)
9] Have you actually ever been worried about the condition of the property market? I’m a subscriber of your newsletter, and you always seem so upbeat and positive (I guess you have to be, since you’re trying to sell a product). But I find it hard to believe that you’ve consistently been so positive throughout the entire recession. Haven’t you ever thought, “Shit, I could lose it all?”
When you have interest rates sitting at 0.5%, Libor at 0.6% and most of my borrowings with Mortgage Express it would be pretty difficult to cock it up! Things are very good for investors right now.
The time whilst the rates were at 5% and the recession was hitting wasa tough time but you hang on in there. That is what business is all about.
10] Are you still buying property right now, or have you taken your foot off the gas? What/where was your most recent purchase?
I have bought a couple of places in the last 3 months. A 1 bed bungalow, East Ayrshire, £17,650 and got a mortgage for £21,000. So a cashback and a 20%+ yield! The other one was a 2 bed flat, Motherwell, £25,000 worth around £40,000.
Interview Over
Well, there you have it, folks. What did you think? I thought he avoided a few of my questions quite well, but that was expected. But the majority of his responses seemed reasonable!
I’m still in no real position to judge Ajay’s business acumen because I don’t know enough about his operation, and probably nor do you. No matter what you hear or read, it probably isn’t always the entire truth. The sad truth is, we, as humans, like to talk and hear about bad press rather than the good, which maybe what works against Ajay.
But one thing is for damn certain, anyone who is grossing £44k per month must be doing something right, even if it’s through wrong. Now, I wonder how much of that is net…
I’d just like to thank Ajay Ahuja for answering my questions and clearing a few things up. From the word go he was accommodating and willing to answer all the questions I threw at him, and I appreciate that.
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Talk / 148 Comments
jools wrote this on 2009-11-10 10:28:58
Whilst Ajay seems to be the Arfur Daley of the property industry and the gift of the gab is not lost on him - I am still not sure about his methods. Big houses and Porche's do not impress me - it's the actual person. Maybe if I met him in person I would think differently.
Just wondering if Ajay has a soft side and uses some of his wealth to help others through charitable work or sponsorship?
For me, whilst the product may be good - the marketing is all wrong and the whole thing reminds me of a MLM or pyramid scheme (Yes I know it isn't but that is what it 'feels' like Ajay) much like Amway! For me - spending some of your hard earned on a new brand and marketing might go a long way to making the business seem more legit. As I said before on a previous post - the media thrives on one sides stories and truth and honesty tend to take a back seat to hype and making good television.
Good interview though Landlord - keep it up! Are you now the Donal McKintyre of the property industry?
Jools
Just wondering if Ajay has a soft side and uses some of his wealth to help others through charitable work or sponsorship?
For me, whilst the product may be good - the marketing is all wrong and the whole thing reminds me of a MLM or pyramid scheme (Yes I know it isn't but that is what it 'feels' like Ajay) much like Amway! For me - spending some of your hard earned on a new brand and marketing might go a long way to making the business seem more legit. As I said before on a previous post - the media thrives on one sides stories and truth and honesty tend to take a back seat to hype and making good television.
Good interview though Landlord - keep it up! Are you now the Donal McKintyre of the property industry?
Jools
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Ajay wrote this on 2009-11-10 11:07:49
Hi,
Please let me know which questions I avoided and I will answer. Did not know I avoided them!
Also people who use my service can read between the lines. These articles like the BBC can only help my business. And articles like this one can only help it even more!
My sourcing business is really for professional investors. The mistake I think we did was we had newbie investors and gave them a profesional type service.
This is why we have introduced the training programme to get people up to speed before they buy.
It really does not matter where you buy as long as the PRICE is right and the survey backs it up. The rest is simple mathematics!
Ajay
Please let me know which questions I avoided and I will answer. Did not know I avoided them!
Also people who use my service can read between the lines. These articles like the BBC can only help my business. And articles like this one can only help it even more!
My sourcing business is really for professional investors. The mistake I think we did was we had newbie investors and gave them a profesional type service.
This is why we have introduced the training programme to get people up to speed before they buy.
It really does not matter where you buy as long as the PRICE is right and the survey backs it up. The rest is simple mathematics!
Ajay
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Ajay Ahuja wrote this on 2009-11-10 17:56:29
I think I know the question I did not answer fully:
2 a] In one particular case shown in the video, you offered one guy a property that was worth £150,000, but the Ahuja Group said it was worth £247,000, and you were able to give it to him for £177,000. My maths isn’t the best, but had he of taken you up on that offer; he would have gotten royally fucked. Agreed? Yes or No?
My answer is NO.
Lets say the flat we found Craig got valued by the estate agent at £177k, the price we found it for him the we would have the following scenario:
RICS Valuation £247,000
Mortgage Advance (75% of £247k) £185,250
Purchase Price £177,000
That results in a cashback of £8,250.
Craig gets the property having not put any money in. In fact he gets money back. Then he has a property worth £177k with a mortgage of £185k.
It is highly geared however the investor knows that. No one is getting Royally F*cked here (sorry for swearing but using the letter of the word in the question) as the client has got a property worth £177k for £177k with a £8k cashback.
Think how many properties you could own if you could get 100% financing. I mean would you buy any properties on Rightmove if you knew you could buy them without having to put a deposit down?
Hope that answers the question.
Ajay
2 a] In one particular case shown in the video, you offered one guy a property that was worth £150,000, but the Ahuja Group said it was worth £247,000, and you were able to give it to him for £177,000. My maths isn’t the best, but had he of taken you up on that offer; he would have gotten royally fucked. Agreed? Yes or No?
My answer is NO.
Lets say the flat we found Craig got valued by the estate agent at £177k, the price we found it for him the we would have the following scenario:
RICS Valuation £247,000
Mortgage Advance (75% of £247k) £185,250
Purchase Price £177,000
That results in a cashback of £8,250.
Craig gets the property having not put any money in. In fact he gets money back. Then he has a property worth £177k with a mortgage of £185k.
It is highly geared however the investor knows that. No one is getting Royally F*cked here (sorry for swearing but using the letter of the word in the question) as the client has got a property worth £177k for £177k with a £8k cashback.
Think how many properties you could own if you could get 100% financing. I mean would you buy any properties on Rightmove if you knew you could buy them without having to put a deposit down?
Hope that answers the question.
Ajay
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-10 18:36:13
Hey Ajay,
I was going to email you tonight with details, but I guess you just answered my question ha :)
Once again, many thanks!
I was going to email you tonight with details, but I guess you just answered my question ha :)
Once again, many thanks!
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-11 14:00:41
Ajay - you state "My sourcing business is really for professional investors. The mistake I think we did was we had newbie investors and gave them a profesional type service".
Strange because I have 15 properties already, 9 of which were sourced through other Property Sourcing Companies who required up front fees and whilst my portfolio isn't massive I am certainly not a newbie investor. Yet your service still f*cked me over??
FYI - the other companies I gave upfront fees to have never not refunded me if a deal didn't progress. And they always return my calls/emails. Yet you are holding onto £7500 of my money in fees refusing to refund me saying you will find alternative deals and then never contacting me - let alone finding other deals!
Answer this for me then.... if a deal doesn't go ahead what harm does it do you to refund fees if you're not conning people? The £3500 and £4000 of my money you have is certainly not a justified cost for the simple pdf I received. And don't try and say you have business running costs etc. You get a lead. Someone pulls together a pdf from a template and you mail it out. When an investor shows interest you take their money and then the sourcer takes over. At this stage, if the deal fails, your costs have been minimal. Your employees have done very little and there is no justification for these costs.
Also, if you are so successful, why do you operate your business this way? You do nothing to get your leads - they simply come to you from sourcers who advertise elsewhere and you simply put together simple (mis-leading) pdfs, add on a whopping "Ahuja" fee and con people out of their money. Why not offer refunds?
You say "No one has legit cases on me. Judgements were found on me in default. No court case has ever taken place. I am in the process of setting these judgements aside and I will be defending these in court. Watch this space." Perhaps no-one can get legit cases in court against you because you set-up and hide your company and personal data in such a way it makes this almost impossible for anyone to get at you legally?
If you are legit why are you currently moving all of your assets?
If you are genuine, honest and trustworthy why do all of these people have cases against you?
If you've done nothing wrong why do you want to meet with Landlord Action?
Landlord Action have cases numbering in the double digits and in the very few hours I have been online and spreading the word about Landlord Action I have come across 9 other people who you have conned. So
if you are really "doing the right thing" why are so many of us feeling so wronged by you that we feel we have no choice but to take legal action against you?
Ajay - you state you don't offer refunds but will find alternative deals. You haven't. Simple fact! You are therefore in breach of contract. I would love to know what you have to say to that. I would love to meet you in person and discuss this face to face. But somehow, despite how you try to fool others with your interviews etc, I doubt you'd ever have the balls ot face me. If you are gutless enough to rip off people like me, like this, then I doubt you would ever be brave enough to face your responsibilities and do the right wrong, let alone meet me!
Ajay - you may be willing to answer questions from the press to be perceived as "willing to clear things up". Perhaps you believe that even bad news is good PR. Well hopefully all this press attention you seek will finally show you up for what you are and finally put a stop to you conning anyone else. The more press you get the easier you are to find. And the more you con people, the more people will come running after you.
Hopefully the accumulation of cases against you will result in a decent judge (hopefully one you've ripped off) serving you with a prison sentence so you get banged up. And if we are really lucky some beefy stack of an in-mate will get hold of you in the showers and give you a taste of how we all feel about being f*cked up the a*rse by you!
Alternatively - if you're a real man and really are a genuine business-man, refund our fees or find good replacement deals that fit our investment criteria.
I challenge you...Come on - cut out all this bullsh*t. As you seem to love all the press attention - let's go on TV together and show how you found me some really good deals just when I thought you were a slime bag con artist without an ounce of morals or b*ollocks who tried to do me out of £7500. Answer your critics. Face the music. "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough!!!!"
And there you have it - you see I am "in a position to judge Ajay's business acumen". And if you want the truth then speak to me, or Paul Shamplina or the ever increasing volume of people who are the ones that have made this bad press - not becuase "we as humans like to talk and hear about bad press" but because as humans, we don't like being ripped off and because as humans (unlike Ajay) we have a balanced sense of justice and considersation for others that means we'll do whatever it takes to stop anyone else from getting ripped off and/or hurt the way we have.
And if anyone wants to ask me any questions I will be as happy and as willing as Ajay to do so!
So, it just leaves me to say surely what people reading this interview/thread should be asking is "if Ajay really is genuine, honest and trustworthy and he isn't conning people, then why has it got to a stage where someone like Paul Shamplina is going on TV to expose Ajay for the criminal he clearly is?".
Surely - if Ajay is straight-up this would not be happening?
Let's face it, sadly people get conned everyday but it doesn't make the TV or press like this!
Perhaps the media are only giving one side of this story because it's about time Ajay was stopped from having his side of the story.
Regards - Corinna
Strange because I have 15 properties already, 9 of which were sourced through other Property Sourcing Companies who required up front fees and whilst my portfolio isn't massive I am certainly not a newbie investor. Yet your service still f*cked me over??
FYI - the other companies I gave upfront fees to have never not refunded me if a deal didn't progress. And they always return my calls/emails. Yet you are holding onto £7500 of my money in fees refusing to refund me saying you will find alternative deals and then never contacting me - let alone finding other deals!
Answer this for me then.... if a deal doesn't go ahead what harm does it do you to refund fees if you're not conning people? The £3500 and £4000 of my money you have is certainly not a justified cost for the simple pdf I received. And don't try and say you have business running costs etc. You get a lead. Someone pulls together a pdf from a template and you mail it out. When an investor shows interest you take their money and then the sourcer takes over. At this stage, if the deal fails, your costs have been minimal. Your employees have done very little and there is no justification for these costs.
Also, if you are so successful, why do you operate your business this way? You do nothing to get your leads - they simply come to you from sourcers who advertise elsewhere and you simply put together simple (mis-leading) pdfs, add on a whopping "Ahuja" fee and con people out of their money. Why not offer refunds?
You say "No one has legit cases on me. Judgements were found on me in default. No court case has ever taken place. I am in the process of setting these judgements aside and I will be defending these in court. Watch this space." Perhaps no-one can get legit cases in court against you because you set-up and hide your company and personal data in such a way it makes this almost impossible for anyone to get at you legally?
If you are legit why are you currently moving all of your assets?
If you are genuine, honest and trustworthy why do all of these people have cases against you?
If you've done nothing wrong why do you want to meet with Landlord Action?
Landlord Action have cases numbering in the double digits and in the very few hours I have been online and spreading the word about Landlord Action I have come across 9 other people who you have conned. So
if you are really "doing the right thing" why are so many of us feeling so wronged by you that we feel we have no choice but to take legal action against you?
Ajay - you state you don't offer refunds but will find alternative deals. You haven't. Simple fact! You are therefore in breach of contract. I would love to know what you have to say to that. I would love to meet you in person and discuss this face to face. But somehow, despite how you try to fool others with your interviews etc, I doubt you'd ever have the balls ot face me. If you are gutless enough to rip off people like me, like this, then I doubt you would ever be brave enough to face your responsibilities and do the right wrong, let alone meet me!
Ajay - you may be willing to answer questions from the press to be perceived as "willing to clear things up". Perhaps you believe that even bad news is good PR. Well hopefully all this press attention you seek will finally show you up for what you are and finally put a stop to you conning anyone else. The more press you get the easier you are to find. And the more you con people, the more people will come running after you.
Hopefully the accumulation of cases against you will result in a decent judge (hopefully one you've ripped off) serving you with a prison sentence so you get banged up. And if we are really lucky some beefy stack of an in-mate will get hold of you in the showers and give you a taste of how we all feel about being f*cked up the a*rse by you!
Alternatively - if you're a real man and really are a genuine business-man, refund our fees or find good replacement deals that fit our investment criteria.
I challenge you...Come on - cut out all this bullsh*t. As you seem to love all the press attention - let's go on TV together and show how you found me some really good deals just when I thought you were a slime bag con artist without an ounce of morals or b*ollocks who tried to do me out of £7500. Answer your critics. Face the music. "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough!!!!"
And there you have it - you see I am "in a position to judge Ajay's business acumen". And if you want the truth then speak to me, or Paul Shamplina or the ever increasing volume of people who are the ones that have made this bad press - not becuase "we as humans like to talk and hear about bad press" but because as humans, we don't like being ripped off and because as humans (unlike Ajay) we have a balanced sense of justice and considersation for others that means we'll do whatever it takes to stop anyone else from getting ripped off and/or hurt the way we have.
And if anyone wants to ask me any questions I will be as happy and as willing as Ajay to do so!
So, it just leaves me to say surely what people reading this interview/thread should be asking is "if Ajay really is genuine, honest and trustworthy and he isn't conning people, then why has it got to a stage where someone like Paul Shamplina is going on TV to expose Ajay for the criminal he clearly is?".
Surely - if Ajay is straight-up this would not be happening?
Let's face it, sadly people get conned everyday but it doesn't make the TV or press like this!
Perhaps the media are only giving one side of this story because it's about time Ajay was stopped from having his side of the story.
Regards - Corinna
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-11 15:03:50
@Ajay,
You should personally call Corinna and resolve this issue :)
You should personally call Corinna and resolve this issue :)
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twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-11 16:04:11
Hell hath no fury!
Will be interesting to see if Ajay actuall has the cahonies to call.
Twattybollocks
Will be interesting to see if Ajay actuall has the cahonies to call.
Twattybollocks
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-11 16:14:36
haha! I'm interested to see if he will reply in here, let alone call Corinna!
Let's hope he does both, just to satisfy all parties involved (the victim and the viewers)!
Let's hope he does both, just to satisfy all parties involved (the victim and the viewers)!
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twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-11 16:27:07
At least he won't be able to say he has not been given the opportunity to reply! Maybe he will reply without the so called corporate bollocks this time? By the way a Porsche Cayenne is basically a VW Touareg and I really would not boast about that! I had a Q7 audi recently for a few days and it went through fuel like the space shuttle. No wonder his wealth has dropped 3m!!
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Ajay Ahuja wrote this on 2009-11-12 13:59:12
Before I go in to your case please can I ask you to tone down your language when you are communicating with my staff! I am thick skinned but please. Comments you have sent my staff have really been out of order.
I want to make this clear:
I will personally see that you get the deals you want to your EXACT specification.
Now for the history. You paid a joining for of £399. We sent you our welcome pack and disclaimer. It clearly stated no refunds, just replacements.
Whe sent you an email again on 31st July stating our terms and conditions which clearly state “No Refunds”.
You gave us your requirements which were in essence cashback deals and HMOs with large profits.
We found you 2 deals on 28th August 2009 and Lynne helped you arrange finance on both properties.
The first deal Aug026 is here:
This got down valued so that the deal resulted in having to put £4k all in. Since you did not have the £4k to put in we agreed to find you a replacement.
The second deal was Jun008
You got declined by BM and the deal would not stack using C&G. We deem this not your fault and we will replace.
Now your requirements are quite specific so it will take time to find you the exact deal you want. But I want to assure you you will get the deals you want. I can promise this as I will over see it.
I have had some excellent meetings with 3rd party sources and I am confident I can get you cashback deals or HMOs with high profits this month. I want to see that you get some great deals so you can tell everyone about it!
Deal?
Ajay
I want to make this clear:
I will personally see that you get the deals you want to your EXACT specification.
Now for the history. You paid a joining for of £399. We sent you our welcome pack and disclaimer. It clearly stated no refunds, just replacements.
Whe sent you an email again on 31st July stating our terms and conditions which clearly state “No Refunds”.
You gave us your requirements which were in essence cashback deals and HMOs with large profits.
We found you 2 deals on 28th August 2009 and Lynne helped you arrange finance on both properties.
The first deal Aug026 is here:
This got down valued so that the deal resulted in having to put £4k all in. Since you did not have the £4k to put in we agreed to find you a replacement.
The second deal was Jun008
You got declined by BM and the deal would not stack using C&G. We deem this not your fault and we will replace.
Now your requirements are quite specific so it will take time to find you the exact deal you want. But I want to assure you you will get the deals you want. I can promise this as I will over see it.
I have had some excellent meetings with 3rd party sources and I am confident I can get you cashback deals or HMOs with high profits this month. I want to see that you get some great deals so you can tell everyone about it!
Deal?
Ajay
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Ajay Ahuja wrote this on 2009-11-12 14:05:14
forgot to post links to the reports!
Aug026:
http://user19086.websitewizard.com/files/unprotected/Aug026.pdf
Jun008
http://user19086.websitewizard.com/files/unprotected/Jun008.pdf
Aug026:
http://user19086.websitewizard.com/files/unprotected/Aug026.pdf
Jun008
http://user19086.websitewizard.com/files/unprotected/Jun008.pdf
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SN wrote this on 2009-11-12 20:38:47
Landlord - great article, I'm a bit 'stuck on the fence' about taking sides though.
I wouldn't really have any problems using Ajay if he offered refunds (possibly less a small admin type fee) and these weren't given as credits notes/roll over for future deals. But he's been upfront and quite honest about his refund policy, so I can't really argue with that. I wouldn't run the risk, but that's probably why I've only got a small portfolio.
Who are the main competitors?
I wouldn't really have any problems using Ajay if he offered refunds (possibly less a small admin type fee) and these weren't given as credits notes/roll over for future deals. But he's been upfront and quite honest about his refund policy, so I can't really argue with that. I wouldn't run the risk, but that's probably why I've only got a small portfolio.
Who are the main competitors?
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ajay wrote this on 2009-11-12 20:52:31
Singing Pig find BMV deals. We would consider SingingPig an autority on the matter. Have a look at their Terms & Conditions, points 2.4 and 2.5:
https://www.mcssl.com/content/111828/SPIN_-_Other/terms_and_conditions_manc.pdf
Quite clearly there is no refund if the client aborts the sale, has lack of funds or cannot get finance. Replacement deals are offered as stated in term 2.5
You could not run a property sourcing business without these sort of terms. We work with people who want to build a portfolio. If you want a specific property in a specific area with specific financials then my service is not for you. If however you want specific financials within a certain radius and property type range then we can help!
We really do get great deals. We have 500+ clients and we have 17 of those buy 5 or more properties in the last 12 months.
Ajay
https://www.mcssl.com/content/111828/SPIN_-_Other/terms_and_conditions_manc.pdf
Quite clearly there is no refund if the client aborts the sale, has lack of funds or cannot get finance. Replacement deals are offered as stated in term 2.5
You could not run a property sourcing business without these sort of terms. We work with people who want to build a portfolio. If you want a specific property in a specific area with specific financials then my service is not for you. If however you want specific financials within a certain radius and property type range then we can help!
We really do get great deals. We have 500+ clients and we have 17 of those buy 5 or more properties in the last 12 months.
Ajay
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ajay wrote this on 2009-11-12 21:02:56
Another Authority on the subject Assetz. They are a big company and they state:
Fees
Fees for participation in investment opportunities introduced to you by us, vary per opportunity, but will always be disclosed to you before you commit to participate in any such opportunity by way of a reservation.
Unless otherwise agreed in writing by us, all fees are payable within 7 days from your commitment to purchase a property, usually in the form of a Reservation Fee and Finders Fee, which are quoted exclusive of VAT. These fees will usually be payable to the developer and Assetz for Investors Limited respectively for the right to reserve a property and take it off the market for a period of time and are non-refundable if you decide not to proceed for any reason, unless expressly agreed by a company Director of Assetz for Investors Limited in writing by us. If a property scheme on which you have paid a Finders Fee is cancelled by the developer then your fee may be transferred onto another one of the property investments we offer against the Finder’s Fee due, not against any other costs, deposits or fees. This does not apply if you change your mind on an investment. Your finance broker or lender may also charge fees if you use finance to purchase property. This will be payable at the time of arranging finance.
See: http://investors.assetz.co.uk/terms-and-conditions.htm
So they do NOT refund. They only replace as well!
Ajay
Fees
Fees for participation in investment opportunities introduced to you by us, vary per opportunity, but will always be disclosed to you before you commit to participate in any such opportunity by way of a reservation.
Unless otherwise agreed in writing by us, all fees are payable within 7 days from your commitment to purchase a property, usually in the form of a Reservation Fee and Finders Fee, which are quoted exclusive of VAT. These fees will usually be payable to the developer and Assetz for Investors Limited respectively for the right to reserve a property and take it off the market for a period of time and are non-refundable if you decide not to proceed for any reason, unless expressly agreed by a company Director of Assetz for Investors Limited in writing by us. If a property scheme on which you have paid a Finders Fee is cancelled by the developer then your fee may be transferred onto another one of the property investments we offer against the Finder’s Fee due, not against any other costs, deposits or fees. This does not apply if you change your mind on an investment. Your finance broker or lender may also charge fees if you use finance to purchase property. This will be payable at the time of arranging finance.
See: http://investors.assetz.co.uk/terms-and-conditions.htm
So they do NOT refund. They only replace as well!
Ajay
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Ajay's Victim wrote this on 2009-11-13 13:56:45
Hi Ajay,
I am going to court as your company has £6000/- of mine and is not refunding the money, as the deal has not gone through (I can prove that I have not backed out). Still your company is not refunding my money.
Well I have contacted Paul (shown in the video), and it seems he has about 30 cases againt your company. Well it is now 31 cases. Landlord Action (http://www.landlordaction.co.uk/ 0800 856 7878) know all about you and are delaing with you. As soon as I told them Ahuja Group, they already know the story, as they have sooo many cases againt your company.
If your business is ethical, then why do people have to goto court to get their hard earned money, which they give you in trust.
Yes I believe that it is true you do not have offices in Whilestable. If your business is ethical, why hide from the world after taking people's money. If you cannot deliver, please return their hard earned money.
By the way, how come all your properties are substanrard, in remote villages, extreme end of scotland, in places away from population, and not one of them is in so called hotspot which is advertised on your propertyhotspot.net and all of your books ? I simply cannot understand
You did hide, but were tracked down. It will happen again and again, unless you return people's money.
Hope you understand the point.
Goodluck to you.
I am going to court as your company has £6000/- of mine and is not refunding the money, as the deal has not gone through (I can prove that I have not backed out). Still your company is not refunding my money.
Well I have contacted Paul (shown in the video), and it seems he has about 30 cases againt your company. Well it is now 31 cases. Landlord Action (http://www.landlordaction.co.uk/ 0800 856 7878) know all about you and are delaing with you. As soon as I told them Ahuja Group, they already know the story, as they have sooo many cases againt your company.
If your business is ethical, then why do people have to goto court to get their hard earned money, which they give you in trust.
Yes I believe that it is true you do not have offices in Whilestable. If your business is ethical, why hide from the world after taking people's money. If you cannot deliver, please return their hard earned money.
By the way, how come all your properties are substanrard, in remote villages, extreme end of scotland, in places away from population, and not one of them is in so called hotspot which is advertised on your propertyhotspot.net and all of your books ? I simply cannot understand
You did hide, but were tracked down. It will happen again and again, unless you return people's money.
Hope you understand the point.
Goodluck to you.
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-13 14:26:21
@Ajay's Victim,
Maybe worth mentioning your name so Ajay can look into the case and attempt to resolve the issue, as he said he would with Corinna Cope (comment #6)?
Kind regards
Maybe worth mentioning your name so Ajay can look into the case and attempt to resolve the issue, as he said he would with Corinna Cope (comment #6)?
Kind regards
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Finny wrote this on 2009-11-13 15:07:51
Hey Ajay's Victim, what do you mean "extreme end of Scotland"? You say it as if Scotland is some kinda third world country. A flat in London is the extreme end of England to me. Yes, we have an overabundance of pleasant non smogged up green space (unlike dear old england), with honest hardworking villages and towns in between where people DO want to live) But if you really understood what Ajay is trying to do you'd understand these low value properties are cheap to buy cash cows that give big yields eg 12%+. The whole secret of success in property is having a few good cashflowing properties which would allow you to 'leave the day job'. If you really think Ajay is interested in sourcing you some new build, pleasant or overpriced palace and you'll make a gazillion on 20%+ a year growth then you've missed the point a bit. I for one have 20 properties and cashflow, after mortgages, £6000 a month. ALL of my properties are ex Local authority and all have salt of the earth Scottish people in them (apart from one french guy but he is almost scottish now) and about half of these are in small villages you will have never heard of. So, i am not sticking up for Ajay per se (he is man enough to do that himself) but i for one like him. He seems to say it how it is and HAS made a success of smelly old dog houses. If, however, he has made it clear there are no refunds, just replacements, then it is your fault for being such a lazy investor. Get off your arse and source your own property. A 'property wanted' ad in the local paper and flyers has been the source of all mine. if you pay someone £3grand for effectively a phone number i think you deserve all you get. Sorry if this is harsh but get over it. i could source you a deal for free but you'd probably still moan about it. NOTE TO AJAY -You seem like a good guy, i'd even enjoy a pint in your company, but for the sake of a few grand your reputation is worth oh so much more than that. i'd hand back 31 x £3,000 and hold my head high and get these negative people out of my life for good. Or you could NMD a few properties yourself (if you can get finance) and pay them back over time. All the best, Finny, messenger of the Kingdom of Scotland and all it's riches. :o)
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Ajay Ahuja wrote this on 2009-11-13 16:23:25
cheers finny!
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-13 19:05:44
Dear all - I am aware that Ajay has responded above but a number of comments he has made are factually incorrect. In light of this, plus the material mis-representation of his deal, plus the lack of response (til now, strangely enough!!!), plus breach of contract for not finding suitable alternative deals (which is the point that keeps being missed in amongst all this talk of "refunds"), I will not be replying to Ajay and will simply allow my case to be progressed through Paul Shamplina.
All that remains is for me to say that perhaps if Ajay spent his time responding to Paul as he promised after a recent meeting, instead of blogging about everyone else's T&C's online, we'd actually get to resolve this.
(Although Finny - FYI - I wholeheartedly agree - for the sake of a few grand, Ajay's reputation should be worth more!! So does it not beg the question "why doesn't he just refund our fees"??!!!
Also, perhaps you could consider that "these negative people" you refer to aren't in fact negative but are just p*ssed off at having thousands of pounds taken from them in exchange for services that have simply not been provided. This matter is not about "we do not offer refunds" it's about "we will find you suitable alternative deals".
The T&C's did not state "we will find you suitable alternative deals but only after we ignore you for weeks on end, don't respond to your calls, don't email you plus you have to constantly chase us and blog online and seek legal action before we actually respond (indirectly to you through an online blog) and "claim" deals will be found for you".
Bottom line = no replacement deals.
You may be fooled by Ajay but I don't suffer fools gladly. I can't think of any reason why I would believe any more of this BS?? But feel free to believe what you want - I am only speaking from experience afterall!)
All that remains is for me to say that perhaps if Ajay spent his time responding to Paul as he promised after a recent meeting, instead of blogging about everyone else's T&C's online, we'd actually get to resolve this.
(Although Finny - FYI - I wholeheartedly agree - for the sake of a few grand, Ajay's reputation should be worth more!! So does it not beg the question "why doesn't he just refund our fees"??!!!
Also, perhaps you could consider that "these negative people" you refer to aren't in fact negative but are just p*ssed off at having thousands of pounds taken from them in exchange for services that have simply not been provided. This matter is not about "we do not offer refunds" it's about "we will find you suitable alternative deals".
The T&C's did not state "we will find you suitable alternative deals but only after we ignore you for weeks on end, don't respond to your calls, don't email you plus you have to constantly chase us and blog online and seek legal action before we actually respond (indirectly to you through an online blog) and "claim" deals will be found for you".
Bottom line = no replacement deals.
You may be fooled by Ajay but I don't suffer fools gladly. I can't think of any reason why I would believe any more of this BS?? But feel free to believe what you want - I am only speaking from experience afterall!)
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Ajay wrote this on 2009-11-13 19:47:06
Hi,
I want to assist in getting you deals. I want to help you find replacement deals as agreed within the T&Cs.
I cannot force properties on to you. I hope you change your mind as I am sure we can find you replacement deals. If you wish to use Landlord Action this is fine also.
I wish you every success with your property investments.
Ajay
I want to assist in getting you deals. I want to help you find replacement deals as agreed within the T&Cs.
I cannot force properties on to you. I hope you change your mind as I am sure we can find you replacement deals. If you wish to use Landlord Action this is fine also.
I wish you every success with your property investments.
Ajay
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-13 21:18:53
To all of you who have allegedly (putting that in cos I dont want to get sued Ajay!!) been stiffed by Ajay. There is a saying in English law, that although does not fully fit this situation, should bring cause for reflection - Caveat Emptor - let the buyer beware!
If you went into this looking to make a quick buck then sadly you have learned the hardway that business is a dog eat dog world. You have to be prepared for the s*it as well as the benefits. If you want to play with the big boys you have to be prepared to take risks and then balance those risks against the potential rewards. If you can't afford to lose the money then you should not be messing around in things you don't understand - period. You can always claim the loss against your tax afterall - but if you were business people you would know that.
Now - I don't agree with the way Ajay markets his business BUT it is his business and he has obviously made a few bob along the way! If you want to be a millionaire who are you going to ask how he got there - a millionaire or your mate down the pub who has excellent ideas but is as broke as you?
I would be careful of accusing Ajay of breach of contract or anything else in a public forum as is could affect the way your case is dealt with in court!
TB
Anyway - the bitching is great fun to read!!
If you went into this looking to make a quick buck then sadly you have learned the hardway that business is a dog eat dog world. You have to be prepared for the s*it as well as the benefits. If you want to play with the big boys you have to be prepared to take risks and then balance those risks against the potential rewards. If you can't afford to lose the money then you should not be messing around in things you don't understand - period. You can always claim the loss against your tax afterall - but if you were business people you would know that.
Now - I don't agree with the way Ajay markets his business BUT it is his business and he has obviously made a few bob along the way! If you want to be a millionaire who are you going to ask how he got there - a millionaire or your mate down the pub who has excellent ideas but is as broke as you?
I would be careful of accusing Ajay of breach of contract or anything else in a public forum as is could affect the way your case is dealt with in court!
TB
Anyway - the bitching is great fun to read!!
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-14 10:57:59
Ajay - if you "want" to do anything for me, then refund my £7,870!
And please stop communicating with me via this forum. It's as if you're trying to show others you're doing some sort of "good"?! It doesn't fool me - why on earth would you only contact me through this blog and not personally, especially given the seriousness of this matter?! Please therefore refer all future comms either direct to me or via Paul Shamplina.
Twattybollocks - Caveat Emptor has no place in any case of mis-representation. As for making a quick buck I have slogged for 4 years to build my portfolio and save for my experience with Ajay, business has never been a "dog eat dog world" for me (in fact, if you ever watch dogs their base programming is to work together as packs!). I have worked with numerous sourcing companies and it always goes "they get a fee, I get a property, the vendor gets a sale and everyone wins". Ajay has sadly been the exception rather than the rule.
Finally, what do you know about me - or anyone -as to whether we are "messing around in things we don't understand" or "can't afford to lose money" or being "prepared to take risks" or "aren't prepared for the sh*t"? Pretty sweeping statements and assumptions which totally miss the point here - people have paid (alot of) money for a service they haven't received. I therefore reserve my right to not only assert my grievance but to also assert my rights in law. Whether I can afford to lose money or was prepared for this risk or will claim the tax loss has no bearing on this whatsoever.
And as for being a millionaire - I wouldn't ask a mate down the pub OR Ajay. And I also wouldn't ask you. I have no interest in your "dog eat dog world". It's so sad that this is your view on business, you poor puppy! I hope our business paths never cross! Maybe you and Ajay should go into business together?! Sounds like there could be a good fit.
Best wishes.
And please stop communicating with me via this forum. It's as if you're trying to show others you're doing some sort of "good"?! It doesn't fool me - why on earth would you only contact me through this blog and not personally, especially given the seriousness of this matter?! Please therefore refer all future comms either direct to me or via Paul Shamplina.
Twattybollocks - Caveat Emptor has no place in any case of mis-representation. As for making a quick buck I have slogged for 4 years to build my portfolio and save for my experience with Ajay, business has never been a "dog eat dog world" for me (in fact, if you ever watch dogs their base programming is to work together as packs!). I have worked with numerous sourcing companies and it always goes "they get a fee, I get a property, the vendor gets a sale and everyone wins". Ajay has sadly been the exception rather than the rule.
Finally, what do you know about me - or anyone -as to whether we are "messing around in things we don't understand" or "can't afford to lose money" or being "prepared to take risks" or "aren't prepared for the sh*t"? Pretty sweeping statements and assumptions which totally miss the point here - people have paid (alot of) money for a service they haven't received. I therefore reserve my right to not only assert my grievance but to also assert my rights in law. Whether I can afford to lose money or was prepared for this risk or will claim the tax loss has no bearing on this whatsoever.
And as for being a millionaire - I wouldn't ask a mate down the pub OR Ajay. And I also wouldn't ask you. I have no interest in your "dog eat dog world". It's so sad that this is your view on business, you poor puppy! I hope our business paths never cross! Maybe you and Ajay should go into business together?! Sounds like there could be a good fit.
Best wishes.
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-14 15:08:17
Corrina,
The thing is if you have "slogged for 4 years to build your portfolio" then you obviously do not know anything about business as a good business person works smart not hard to build their portfolio.
Irrespective of what you say business is war - netwoking is an excellent way of building your empire but never forget that someone somewhere will always try to shaft you. You had the opportunity at any time before signing Ajay's contract to walk away or at least get some professional legal advice about what you were getting yourself into. As a matter of interest did you get a solicitor to review the contract BEFORE you signed? If you did then perhaps your complaint is with them and not Ajay.
I could use the phrase 'one born every minute' or again 'buyer beware' (I did say in my previous post that in law Caveat Emptor was not an exact fit for your position but the sentiment remains the same. You chose you enter the contract. YOU say the product was misrepresented - how do we know? There are two side to every story!
As for me, I have worked hard and smart building businesses and sold them on, I have no mortgage, no debt, my cars are paid for and when I holiday I fly first class. I have positive cashflow every month and I continue to grow my portfolio. Perhaps you should ask me for my advice on how to do it afterall?
You can reserve whatever rights you want Corinna but the facts are that YOU (and whoeverever else is claiming) chose to sign the contract - that is taking a risk what ever way you look at it. Perhaps instead of spending all your time looking at the benefits, yield and promises made by Ajay you should have been considering the down side too?
Would I go into business with Ajay - no I would not because I consider the risk to be greater than average.
No wonder Ajay is not replying to you - he is not trying to show he is doing good - he seems to be abiding by the T&C's of his business that, if you had fully investigated in the first place, you would not be trying to recover your money now! I really do hope that you get your money back (for Ajay in my opinion it would be a good business move) but if it goes to court I am sure the judge will side with you.
TB
The thing is if you have "slogged for 4 years to build your portfolio" then you obviously do not know anything about business as a good business person works smart not hard to build their portfolio.
Irrespective of what you say business is war - netwoking is an excellent way of building your empire but never forget that someone somewhere will always try to shaft you. You had the opportunity at any time before signing Ajay's contract to walk away or at least get some professional legal advice about what you were getting yourself into. As a matter of interest did you get a solicitor to review the contract BEFORE you signed? If you did then perhaps your complaint is with them and not Ajay.
I could use the phrase 'one born every minute' or again 'buyer beware' (I did say in my previous post that in law Caveat Emptor was not an exact fit for your position but the sentiment remains the same. You chose you enter the contract. YOU say the product was misrepresented - how do we know? There are two side to every story!
As for me, I have worked hard and smart building businesses and sold them on, I have no mortgage, no debt, my cars are paid for and when I holiday I fly first class. I have positive cashflow every month and I continue to grow my portfolio. Perhaps you should ask me for my advice on how to do it afterall?
You can reserve whatever rights you want Corinna but the facts are that YOU (and whoeverever else is claiming) chose to sign the contract - that is taking a risk what ever way you look at it. Perhaps instead of spending all your time looking at the benefits, yield and promises made by Ajay you should have been considering the down side too?
Would I go into business with Ajay - no I would not because I consider the risk to be greater than average.
No wonder Ajay is not replying to you - he is not trying to show he is doing good - he seems to be abiding by the T&C's of his business that, if you had fully investigated in the first place, you would not be trying to recover your money now! I really do hope that you get your money back (for Ajay in my opinion it would be a good business move) but if it goes to court I am sure the judge will side with you.
TB
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Ajay wrote this on 2009-11-14 15:12:54
I want to find her replacement deals. However she wants a refund.
I do not see middle ground here.
I have some excellent deals if you change your mind......
Ajay
I do not see middle ground here.
I have some excellent deals if you change your mind......
Ajay
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Jools wrote this on 2009-11-14 16:03:52
Ajay,
You have to do what you believe is best for your business. How about a quiet call to Corinna and her signature on a non disclosure/non admission of liability agreement to make it go away?
Don't envy your position!
Jools
You have to do what you believe is best for your business. How about a quiet call to Corinna and her signature on a non disclosure/non admission of liability agreement to make it go away?
Don't envy your position!
Jools
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-14 17:20:27
Ajay - if you have some excellent deals why have they not been sent to me as part of my membership (and also your T&C's)??????????????????????????
Also, as previously requested, please contact me personally rather than via this blog. I would do so to you, but finding your direct contact details and liaising with you directly has proved strangely impossible!
Twatty - it's not just that the deal was mis-rep'd (plenty of evidence available to substantiate) but that the T&C's haven't been fulfilled. It seems that you just don't "get this" at all because you state Ajay "is abiding by his T&C's" and yet fail to see that by virtue of not finding suitable alternative deals he isn't abiding???!!!!!
And of course I knew what I was signing up to - it was in black and white - "pay a fee, get a deal and alternative deals will be found if deals fail through not fault of your own" NOT "pay us your money and if a deals fails we'll screw you".
(No contract was ever physically signed by the way)
And how do you know I didn't consider the downside? More to the point what does it matter? It doesn't give Ajay the right to refuse to give me my money back when he has failed to provide suitable alternative deals as per the T&C's of his contract.
Anyway - enough of this b**llocks. If Ajay has deals they haven't been sent to me. So, given you say you're such a success maybe I should I ask you afterall.....
So... come on then.... how did you/do you do it....?
And Jools - surely what's best for any business is customer retention and satisfaction not to mention abiding by one's own T&C's?
CC
Also, as previously requested, please contact me personally rather than via this blog. I would do so to you, but finding your direct contact details and liaising with you directly has proved strangely impossible!
Twatty - it's not just that the deal was mis-rep'd (plenty of evidence available to substantiate) but that the T&C's haven't been fulfilled. It seems that you just don't "get this" at all because you state Ajay "is abiding by his T&C's" and yet fail to see that by virtue of not finding suitable alternative deals he isn't abiding???!!!!!
And of course I knew what I was signing up to - it was in black and white - "pay a fee, get a deal and alternative deals will be found if deals fail through not fault of your own" NOT "pay us your money and if a deals fails we'll screw you".
(No contract was ever physically signed by the way)
And how do you know I didn't consider the downside? More to the point what does it matter? It doesn't give Ajay the right to refuse to give me my money back when he has failed to provide suitable alternative deals as per the T&C's of his contract.
Anyway - enough of this b**llocks. If Ajay has deals they haven't been sent to me. So, given you say you're such a success maybe I should I ask you afterall.....
So... come on then.... how did you/do you do it....?
And Jools - surely what's best for any business is customer retention and satisfaction not to mention abiding by one's own T&C's?
CC
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twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-14 22:03:05
This is getting boring now Corrina - you need to take some medication before you blow an aorta.
How did I do it? By working smart not hard. Realising that in order to make my life better I would have to take CALCULATED risks, take responsibility for my actions and not sweat the small stuff.
So let me get this straight - you gave Ajay, what is it £7870.00, without a signed contract? AND you decided to give it to him, let me get this straight, without consulting a solicitor to check that the 'contract' you were 'agreeing' to was bone fide?
You agreed to the deal on the basis of "pay a fee, get a deal and alternative deals will be found if deals fail through not fault of your own" - you, I am afraid are a moron.
I know you didn't consider the down side because of the position you are in now!!
As I said - I wish you well in your financial recovery.
Best wishes
Twatty.
How did I do it? By working smart not hard. Realising that in order to make my life better I would have to take CALCULATED risks, take responsibility for my actions and not sweat the small stuff.
So let me get this straight - you gave Ajay, what is it £7870.00, without a signed contract? AND you decided to give it to him, let me get this straight, without consulting a solicitor to check that the 'contract' you were 'agreeing' to was bone fide?
You agreed to the deal on the basis of "pay a fee, get a deal and alternative deals will be found if deals fail through not fault of your own" - you, I am afraid are a moron.
I know you didn't consider the down side because of the position you are in now!!
As I said - I wish you well in your financial recovery.
Best wishes
Twatty.
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Newbie09 wrote this on 2009-11-16 14:01:21
I for one hope Ajay DOESN'T give Corrina the £7870 back.
She strikes me as one of these annoying people that moan moan moan about everything until they get their own way. The type of people that take their bread back to the supermarket because it was nearly out of date or because their milk smelled off. People that will drive 3 miles back to the supermarket with off milk just to get their £1.50 back. Moaners! aka...people with nothing better to do with their lifes!
Well. No. In my opinion, don't give her the money back JUST because she is making a lot of noise here. If you give it back then you should give it to everyone. Personally, i'd just buy some new alloys for your Porsche and send her the pictures!
You keep referring to T&C's corinna but does the contract say how long Ajay has until he finds you a suitable alternative. If not, then you are a real MUG. If it does, then you have to give him the allotted time....before suing.
Peace out.
Newbie09
Ps. Landlord, the question you forgot to ask ajay is why can't he keep his emails to a more sensible level? 1 a day...or 5 a week or something. Just a minor comment.
She strikes me as one of these annoying people that moan moan moan about everything until they get their own way. The type of people that take their bread back to the supermarket because it was nearly out of date or because their milk smelled off. People that will drive 3 miles back to the supermarket with off milk just to get their £1.50 back. Moaners! aka...people with nothing better to do with their lifes!
Well. No. In my opinion, don't give her the money back JUST because she is making a lot of noise here. If you give it back then you should give it to everyone. Personally, i'd just buy some new alloys for your Porsche and send her the pictures!
You keep referring to T&C's corinna but does the contract say how long Ajay has until he finds you a suitable alternative. If not, then you are a real MUG. If it does, then you have to give him the allotted time....before suing.
Peace out.
Newbie09
Ps. Landlord, the question you forgot to ask ajay is why can't he keep his emails to a more sensible level? 1 a day...or 5 a week or something. Just a minor comment.
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-16 14:50:45
@Newbie09,
haha, I was genuinely going to make a comment about his emailing habits, but I forgot (which you just reminded me).
I've had a few conversations with other people that have all said the same thing- "man, that dude can email"
haha, I was genuinely going to make a comment about his emailing habits, but I forgot (which you just reminded me).
I've had a few conversations with other people that have all said the same thing- "man, that dude can email"
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-16 15:01:40
i thought this was an interesting article about mr ahuja :-
A landlord with 193 properties across the UK has been put on notice not to repeat the failings that led the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) to prosecute him for not complying with an Improvement Notice served on him to provide one of his tenants with a gas safety certificate.
On 26 March, Mr Ajay Ahuja, from March in Cambridgeshire, pleaded guilty at Northampton Crown Court to contravening Section 33(1) of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 for failing to comply with an Improvement Notice served by HSE. He was given a two-year conditional discharge and ordered to pay costs of £14 000.
The Improvement Notice was served following repeated attempts by HSE to get Mr Ahuja to provide his tenant with a gas safety certificate for the gas boiler in the property he rented from Mr Ahuja in Corby, Northamptonshire.
All landlords have a duty under the Gas Safety (Installations and Use) Regulations 1998 to annually check the safety of the gas appliances in properties they rent out to others and provide a certificate confirming this to be the case.
At the hearing, His Honour Judge Corrie stressed that the authorities are right to be vigilant concerning such infringements - not only in terms of the individual, but also to maintain public confidence.
He said: "For landlords large and small, there is a need to protect the public, particularly those who rent properties, to guard against gas explosions, which are potentially fatal. Not only this, but also asphyxiation."
In passing a two year conditional sentence on Mr Ahuja he stated that "the spotlight was upon him" in ensuring that he did not again infringe these requirements."
After the hearing Neil Craig, Principal Inspector with HSE said: "Every year about 20-30 people die from carbon monoxide poisoning associated with domestic gas appliances, due mainly to these appliances not having been properly installed or maintained.
"We need landlords to ensure their gas appliances are maintained to a safe standard and checked annually, with copies of the gas safety certificate being provided to their tenants.
"Should Mr Ahuja come to our attention again in respect of such matters, we will investigate to establish whether or not he is complying with his duties and if found in breach, return him to the courts"
A landlord with 193 properties across the UK has been put on notice not to repeat the failings that led the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) to prosecute him for not complying with an Improvement Notice served on him to provide one of his tenants with a gas safety certificate.
On 26 March, Mr Ajay Ahuja, from March in Cambridgeshire, pleaded guilty at Northampton Crown Court to contravening Section 33(1) of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 for failing to comply with an Improvement Notice served by HSE. He was given a two-year conditional discharge and ordered to pay costs of £14 000.
The Improvement Notice was served following repeated attempts by HSE to get Mr Ahuja to provide his tenant with a gas safety certificate for the gas boiler in the property he rented from Mr Ahuja in Corby, Northamptonshire.
All landlords have a duty under the Gas Safety (Installations and Use) Regulations 1998 to annually check the safety of the gas appliances in properties they rent out to others and provide a certificate confirming this to be the case.
At the hearing, His Honour Judge Corrie stressed that the authorities are right to be vigilant concerning such infringements - not only in terms of the individual, but also to maintain public confidence.
He said: "For landlords large and small, there is a need to protect the public, particularly those who rent properties, to guard against gas explosions, which are potentially fatal. Not only this, but also asphyxiation."
In passing a two year conditional sentence on Mr Ahuja he stated that "the spotlight was upon him" in ensuring that he did not again infringe these requirements."
After the hearing Neil Craig, Principal Inspector with HSE said: "Every year about 20-30 people die from carbon monoxide poisoning associated with domestic gas appliances, due mainly to these appliances not having been properly installed or maintained.
"We need landlords to ensure their gas appliances are maintained to a safe standard and checked annually, with copies of the gas safety certificate being provided to their tenants.
"Should Mr Ahuja come to our attention again in respect of such matters, we will investigate to establish whether or not he is complying with his duties and if found in breach, return him to the courts"
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Simon wrote this on 2009-11-16 15:14:54
I have read the above with interest.
The Ahuja group is holding £3k of my money. My deal, which was the first one I had done with them, fell though as the vendor pulled out at the last moment. This was back in September. I watched the BBC program and have spoken with Paul Shamplina, who seems to be putting together some kind of class action, together with 30+ Ahuja clients.
I can't help liking Ajay, I have never met the man, but I like his straight forward approach to property investing. At the moment I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that he will find me a replacement deal. Things have been rather quiet on this front so far. There was one deal I looked at but the Ahuja fee was £4k, I said, considering my previous deal falling through, that I would pay them the additional £1k on completion. They gave the deal to someone else.
What I don't understand is Ajay's lack of customer care. I am his perfect customer, I have pots of cash and am ready to buy his deals, if they stack up. Surely if a deal falls through, those clients should be made an absolute priority, so as to get them another deal asap. So they can then be sold even more deals. It makes no sense to take the money just once and if they don't complete do nothing and have unhappy customers, spreading negativity across the www.
I looked into the Ahuja Group before giving them my money and read the negative things about them before making my decision, so I knew what I was getting into.
So at present I have not joined Paul Shamplin's 30+ group. I still hope to get a deal and am willing to give Ajay and the Ahuja Group a little more time. I hope for my sake and Ajays I have made the right choice.
Simon
The Ahuja group is holding £3k of my money. My deal, which was the first one I had done with them, fell though as the vendor pulled out at the last moment. This was back in September. I watched the BBC program and have spoken with Paul Shamplina, who seems to be putting together some kind of class action, together with 30+ Ahuja clients.
I can't help liking Ajay, I have never met the man, but I like his straight forward approach to property investing. At the moment I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that he will find me a replacement deal. Things have been rather quiet on this front so far. There was one deal I looked at but the Ahuja fee was £4k, I said, considering my previous deal falling through, that I would pay them the additional £1k on completion. They gave the deal to someone else.
What I don't understand is Ajay's lack of customer care. I am his perfect customer, I have pots of cash and am ready to buy his deals, if they stack up. Surely if a deal falls through, those clients should be made an absolute priority, so as to get them another deal asap. So they can then be sold even more deals. It makes no sense to take the money just once and if they don't complete do nothing and have unhappy customers, spreading negativity across the www.
I looked into the Ahuja Group before giving them my money and read the negative things about them before making my decision, so I knew what I was getting into.
So at present I have not joined Paul Shamplin's 30+ group. I still hope to get a deal and am willing to give Ajay and the Ahuja Group a little more time. I hope for my sake and Ajays I have made the right choice.
Simon
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-16 15:24:52
Simon - I couldn't agree more. I had the money, was ready to buy deals that stacked up and now all this cr*p. Why haven't we been given deals? Why aren't we being made a priority? Why is Ajay turning "perfect customers" into "unhappy customers"?
I still haven't been sent any deals in spite of Ajay's comments above!
Good luck with whatever you end up doing.
Best wishes - CC
I still haven't been sent any deals in spite of Ajay's comments above!
Good luck with whatever you end up doing.
Best wishes - CC
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Ajay wrote this on 2009-11-16 15:34:07
Hi Simon,
Sorry to hear that the vendor pulled out at the last minute. I know that you understand that was not our fault and these things happen.
What I can promise you is that if a deal falls through we get you a replacement. I do not know your actual case however you can appreciate that the deals we find are difficult to find.
My sales team are always on the phone to match a deal with a client. If you have quite specific requests then this will always reduce the quantity.
You can be assured we do not want a whole load of unfulfilled orders. I am happy to oversee your case to see that you get something. I will chat to the office find out your requirements and see what I can do.
We have had some excellent meetings with actual property buyers so our volume is always increasing.
Can you email me your full name at ajay at ahuja.co.uk
Thanks.
Ajay
Sorry to hear that the vendor pulled out at the last minute. I know that you understand that was not our fault and these things happen.
What I can promise you is that if a deal falls through we get you a replacement. I do not know your actual case however you can appreciate that the deals we find are difficult to find.
My sales team are always on the phone to match a deal with a client. If you have quite specific requests then this will always reduce the quantity.
You can be assured we do not want a whole load of unfulfilled orders. I am happy to oversee your case to see that you get something. I will chat to the office find out your requirements and see what I can do.
We have had some excellent meetings with actual property buyers so our volume is always increasing.
Can you email me your full name at ajay at ahuja.co.uk
Thanks.
Ajay
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-16 18:15:52
My question is if none of the ahuja clients had a legit claim against Mr Ahuja, why did he lose his cases in court & have to hand over £14k on TV?
If the T's & C's are what he says they are, surely he would have not lost any of the court cases.
If the T's & C's are what he says they are, surely he would have not lost any of the court cases.
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-16 18:28:44
Hi Ed,
I think that's a completely different part of his business. He got sued for failing to comply with Health and Safety regulations as a landlord.
What we're talking about here is his property sourcing interests.
Kind regards.
I think that's a completely different part of his business. He got sued for failing to comply with Health and Safety regulations as a landlord.
What we're talking about here is his property sourcing interests.
Kind regards.
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-16 19:02:21
Hi Landlord,
I am on about his property business.
My questions is if he feels that none of his clients have a "legit" claim against him, why did he lose his court cases.
Also, from watching the tv show again, I notice that the bailiff says "I will have to take your car again".
Is the bailiff a regular caller at the Ahuja home.
And the HSE article is linked to his property business as he says that his staff manage his properties for him on his website.
Ed
I am on about his property business.
My questions is if he feels that none of his clients have a "legit" claim against him, why did he lose his court cases.
Also, from watching the tv show again, I notice that the bailiff says "I will have to take your car again".
Is the bailiff a regular caller at the Ahuja home.
And the HSE article is linked to his property business as he says that his staff manage his properties for him on his website.
Ed
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-16 19:58:47
A copy of an Email i hve sent to Corina Cope. In full surport.
Like I said he gave me his personal garantee that they would stack up and all would be Ok. This is after passing finance then when his mortgage broker could no longer do the deals. He had no mortgages as promiest. He just hangs on to the cash. With no good reason. Then he come up with a new T&C in his favor. Bent. Its stealing end of.
So twattybollocks,
I agree with some of your comments but when the selfstyled guru of buy to let gives his personal garantee at his home, you have read the books, seen the web site, Sundaytimes artical, and the owner of the company says no probs I will sort it for you. You go ahead and buy his services then it falls flat on its face. Its Stealing and taking unfair advantage. Fraud I think its called but hey what do I know. X that by 100.
John Standring 07973322589 Mobile
Hi Corinna,
Just seen your blogs on Property Investment. Hell it is crazy what Ahuja can get away with. He promiest to sorce me 17 properties and delivered nothing. He said he would personaly check them out. Like you they did not stack up. I have no writen contract with him just his personal garantee. Worthless. His personal VIP service also Worthless. He is a bare faced lier. Like you say he does nothing. Please Post my details and story with any of your further comments. I have had one ten minuit coversation with him in one year. They have a no names policy if you want to talk to a manager of your account and that manager will not know the deal you have with ahuja because he just makes it up as he goes along.
So I am in court with him for 25K.
They got judgment against him because he did not reply to the court. Because he would loose anyway.
Also he thought he could lie his way out of everything. ++++ how do these inersent law abiding people get there money back even with a judgment. Where do they go to collect? They carnt find him. So he just laughs at everyone. Its just a virtual office, he uses a sub-contract call center for inquires, I belive its in Cambridge.
Untill now. It took the BBC + Landlord Action to collect Judi James money back at his home address.
Most legitt business would pay up on Judgments but no not Ahuja, Like the BBC showed he pays up when a high court balif puts his car on a truck.
Sorry about spelling, spell check not working. + lots to do.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
Like I said he gave me his personal garantee that they would stack up and all would be Ok. This is after passing finance then when his mortgage broker could no longer do the deals. He had no mortgages as promiest. He just hangs on to the cash. With no good reason. Then he come up with a new T&C in his favor. Bent. Its stealing end of.
So twattybollocks,
I agree with some of your comments but when the selfstyled guru of buy to let gives his personal garantee at his home, you have read the books, seen the web site, Sundaytimes artical, and the owner of the company says no probs I will sort it for you. You go ahead and buy his services then it falls flat on its face. Its Stealing and taking unfair advantage. Fraud I think its called but hey what do I know. X that by 100.
John Standring 07973322589 Mobile
Hi Corinna,
Just seen your blogs on Property Investment. Hell it is crazy what Ahuja can get away with. He promiest to sorce me 17 properties and delivered nothing. He said he would personaly check them out. Like you they did not stack up. I have no writen contract with him just his personal garantee. Worthless. His personal VIP service also Worthless. He is a bare faced lier. Like you say he does nothing. Please Post my details and story with any of your further comments. I have had one ten minuit coversation with him in one year. They have a no names policy if you want to talk to a manager of your account and that manager will not know the deal you have with ahuja because he just makes it up as he goes along.
So I am in court with him for 25K.
They got judgment against him because he did not reply to the court. Because he would loose anyway.
Also he thought he could lie his way out of everything. ++++ how do these inersent law abiding people get there money back even with a judgment. Where do they go to collect? They carnt find him. So he just laughs at everyone. Its just a virtual office, he uses a sub-contract call center for inquires, I belive its in Cambridge.
Untill now. It took the BBC + Landlord Action to collect Judi James money back at his home address.
Most legitt business would pay up on Judgments but no not Ahuja, Like the BBC showed he pays up when a high court balif puts his car on a truck.
Sorry about spelling, spell check not working. + lots to do.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-16 20:28:20
No names policy. It takes weeks just to get a managers name so how can you carry on working with them.
You loose finders fees, mortgage fees, survy fees, time, the man is a theif and should be in jail.
Lots of meida intrested in him and its not good for him. LOL.
He should just apoligise to people he has letdown and payup.
There is a big differance from being a sharp businessman and a scammer.
30+ after him on one account Landlord Action says it all. Look at Landlord Action Paul Shamplena. There could be hundreds.
His ex staff hve been giveing lots of info like where his call center company is and fees he has been taking. So its all comeing out in the wash. But I am swarn to secracy for now.
Does anyone know a Barrister who will advise, me, others 30+, Sky, Sunday Times. etc. In confidence ask them to call me 07973322589
Dont part with any cash. Pay on results. Lots wont work for you but hey they would probably not be for you.
John Standring 07973322589
You loose finders fees, mortgage fees, survy fees, time, the man is a theif and should be in jail.
Lots of meida intrested in him and its not good for him. LOL.
He should just apoligise to people he has letdown and payup.
There is a big differance from being a sharp businessman and a scammer.
30+ after him on one account Landlord Action says it all. Look at Landlord Action Paul Shamplena. There could be hundreds.
His ex staff hve been giveing lots of info like where his call center company is and fees he has been taking. So its all comeing out in the wash. But I am swarn to secracy for now.
Does anyone know a Barrister who will advise, me, others 30+, Sky, Sunday Times. etc. In confidence ask them to call me 07973322589
Dont part with any cash. Pay on results. Lots wont work for you but hey they would probably not be for you.
John Standring 07973322589
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NS wrote this on 2009-11-17 00:55:19
Hi Simon / Corinna,
You are really lucky. Probably the deal offered to you was the one I missed (or narrowly escaped). Sub-substandard property, vauled zero by survey report and I was being FORCED to take it or loose my money, quoting their terms and conditions. When I asked for viewing, it was suddenly sold to someone else.
Now I am being told that since I have pulled out (?) I have lost my £4000/-
Corinna, we are in same situation, and after this experience, I do not want to deal with Ahuja group. I want my money back, and will never give into their bullying tactics.
I cannot understand, it is my money and they have not delivered. Then why can't they return my money. If they show good business ethics, maybe I will deal with them again.
Unfortunately this is my first step into property business. I do not know whom to trust after this experience.
Please do keep us all updated about your case.
Good luck to both of us.
NS
You are really lucky. Probably the deal offered to you was the one I missed (or narrowly escaped). Sub-substandard property, vauled zero by survey report and I was being FORCED to take it or loose my money, quoting their terms and conditions. When I asked for viewing, it was suddenly sold to someone else.
Now I am being told that since I have pulled out (?) I have lost my £4000/-
Corinna, we are in same situation, and after this experience, I do not want to deal with Ahuja group. I want my money back, and will never give into their bullying tactics.
I cannot understand, it is my money and they have not delivered. Then why can't they return my money. If they show good business ethics, maybe I will deal with them again.
Unfortunately this is my first step into property business. I do not know whom to trust after this experience.
Please do keep us all updated about your case.
Good luck to both of us.
NS
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-17 07:49:10
@ John Standring et al,
John - I quote directly from your posting:
"Like I said he gave me his personal garantee that they would stack up and all would be Ok. This is after passing finance then when his mortgage broker could no longer do the deals. He had no mortgages as promiest. He just hangs on to the cash. With no good reason. Then he come up with a new T&C in his favor. Bent. Its stealing end of".
"So twattybollocks,
I agree with some of your comments but when the selfstyled guru of buy to let gives his personal garantee at his home, you have read the books, seen the web site, Sundaytimes artical, and the owner of the company says no probs I will sort it for you. You go ahead and buy his services then it falls flat on its face. Its Stealing and taking unfair advantage. Fraud I think its called but hey what do I know. X that by 100".
Sitting comfortably? then I shall begin!
You agreed to a business transaction involving quite a large amount of money on the personal guarantee of someone you had never met? Oh yes - you have read his book, believed the website, taken advice from (let me get this right)a Sunday Times article (dont you know that the media sometimes does not tell the truth) and finally gone ahead on the promise that "no probs [he] will sort if for you".
Is this country suddenly going through a stupidity spasm or what?
I ask the same question I asked of Corinna that she has not (funnily enough) replied to. Did you take independant legal advice before going ahead with this deal or did you trust your own instincts?
If you (or any one else now bleating on about how hard done by you feel) failed to undertake even the most basic checks before committing the you only have yourselves to blame. IF A DEAL LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS!!!! Ajay has made a fortune because he is an astute businessman who saw a niche in the market and exploited it to make his money. Now, I am sure that there are still some good deals available BUT the yields on offer are low 6% - 8% and in my humble opinion not good - you should be looking for a minimum of at least 12% BUT AGAIN it depends upon the market forces at the time.
Now don't get me wrong - I don't agree with the way Ajay appears to run his business. However I have never dealt with him so can't speak from personal experience but it is his business and it is upto him to sort this.
I really did not realise there were so many gullible people around - I honestly thought that these days punters - sorry property investors - were a bit more clued up. Just goes to show that greed and the thought of making a quick buck overrides the sensible sections of the brain.
I'm now off to write a book on property investing because given the fact that there are allegedly 30+ people chasing Ajay, there are going to be 30+ people with money (assuming that Ajay gets stiffed by the law) that will be burning a hole in their pockets!
For F***s sake - get real people.
Twattybollocks
PS: this is an excellent discussion thread!
John - I quote directly from your posting:
"Like I said he gave me his personal garantee that they would stack up and all would be Ok. This is after passing finance then when his mortgage broker could no longer do the deals. He had no mortgages as promiest. He just hangs on to the cash. With no good reason. Then he come up with a new T&C in his favor. Bent. Its stealing end of".
"So twattybollocks,
I agree with some of your comments but when the selfstyled guru of buy to let gives his personal garantee at his home, you have read the books, seen the web site, Sundaytimes artical, and the owner of the company says no probs I will sort it for you. You go ahead and buy his services then it falls flat on its face. Its Stealing and taking unfair advantage. Fraud I think its called but hey what do I know. X that by 100".
Sitting comfortably? then I shall begin!
You agreed to a business transaction involving quite a large amount of money on the personal guarantee of someone you had never met? Oh yes - you have read his book, believed the website, taken advice from (let me get this right)a Sunday Times article (dont you know that the media sometimes does not tell the truth) and finally gone ahead on the promise that "no probs [he] will sort if for you".
Is this country suddenly going through a stupidity spasm or what?
I ask the same question I asked of Corinna that she has not (funnily enough) replied to. Did you take independant legal advice before going ahead with this deal or did you trust your own instincts?
If you (or any one else now bleating on about how hard done by you feel) failed to undertake even the most basic checks before committing the you only have yourselves to blame. IF A DEAL LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS!!!! Ajay has made a fortune because he is an astute businessman who saw a niche in the market and exploited it to make his money. Now, I am sure that there are still some good deals available BUT the yields on offer are low 6% - 8% and in my humble opinion not good - you should be looking for a minimum of at least 12% BUT AGAIN it depends upon the market forces at the time.
Now don't get me wrong - I don't agree with the way Ajay appears to run his business. However I have never dealt with him so can't speak from personal experience but it is his business and it is upto him to sort this.
I really did not realise there were so many gullible people around - I honestly thought that these days punters - sorry property investors - were a bit more clued up. Just goes to show that greed and the thought of making a quick buck overrides the sensible sections of the brain.
I'm now off to write a book on property investing because given the fact that there are allegedly 30+ people chasing Ajay, there are going to be 30+ people with money (assuming that Ajay gets stiffed by the law) that will be burning a hole in their pockets!
For F***s sake - get real people.
Twattybollocks
PS: this is an excellent discussion thread!
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 08:57:28
Hi Twattybollocks,
you missunderstand a little. I did meet him at his home and he offered 12-24% yealding properties at the time july 07. His personal service on my account. But his deals did not stack up. They did not meet any of our set range of criteria. He just lied.
Big mistake. Hindsight.
He is not an astute businessman he is a scammer. A cheat.
Lets just see how far he will go. He and his contacts cannot deliver. He makes any excuse. Then his office (sub contract faceless call center) goes quiet. Nothing. Thats stealing, I think its called fraud. He should be in jail. If you offer a service and a deal you should deliver or apooligise and give a refund. A deal is a deal and he should deliver. LOL. Someone will kick his arse and his stolen money will be no good to him then. Or he will be in jail. Lol. Carnt wait till I hear the news. Lol.
Liying is as much about what is not said as much as is said.
Regards John Standring 07973322589.
johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
you missunderstand a little. I did meet him at his home and he offered 12-24% yealding properties at the time july 07. His personal service on my account. But his deals did not stack up. They did not meet any of our set range of criteria. He just lied.
Big mistake. Hindsight.
He is not an astute businessman he is a scammer. A cheat.
Lets just see how far he will go. He and his contacts cannot deliver. He makes any excuse. Then his office (sub contract faceless call center) goes quiet. Nothing. Thats stealing, I think its called fraud. He should be in jail. If you offer a service and a deal you should deliver or apooligise and give a refund. A deal is a deal and he should deliver. LOL. Someone will kick his arse and his stolen money will be no good to him then. Or he will be in jail. Lol. Carnt wait till I hear the news. Lol.
Liying is as much about what is not said as much as is said.
Regards John Standring 07973322589.
johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-17 09:13:35
Twatty - to answer your question (coz something tells me you won't stop mentioning it 'til I do!) I did get legal advice. In short and layman's terms, whilst the contract states "We do not offer refunds for this service but we will offer a replacement deal if the deal fails to complete through no fault of your own." - there are no timeframes mentioned and so the law reverts to what is deemed "fair and reasonable". Me giving Ajay one week to honour this is not reasonable and likewise expecting clients to wait ad infinitum for replacement deals is equally unreasonable.
So to use one of your phrases I took a "calculated risk" on the basis that (a) I have purchased several properties through other sourcing companies without any problems, (b) I undertook as much due diligence as I thought I needed to at the time (and yes hindsight is a wonderful thing), (c) my legal position seemed as protected as it was going to be and (d) I have done other deals that were good enough to be true.
But whether I sought legal advice or was gullible or greedy or a moron or didn't consider the downside or whatever/however else you want to judge me - the point remains the same - none of this gives Ajay any right to retain our money. He has not found suitable alternative deals in a fair and reasonable timeframe and therefore is NOT abiding by his terms and conditions.
Bottom line is the law is being broken and whether we are "punters" or "clients", "stupid" or "savvy" - Ajay should be refunding fees on the basis of not fulfilling his own T&C's.
So how about quitting the personal attacks, sticking to the facts and offering up something constructive for people to learn from and appreciate (like how, more specifically, you became so successful or how you source and structure property deals).
Or perhaps you are just Ajay blogging under a different ID?!
Simon - have you received any deals from Ajay yet as per his repsonse to you?
I haven't - but no surprises there!
Ajay - any comments on the lack of deals........
CC
So to use one of your phrases I took a "calculated risk" on the basis that (a) I have purchased several properties through other sourcing companies without any problems, (b) I undertook as much due diligence as I thought I needed to at the time (and yes hindsight is a wonderful thing), (c) my legal position seemed as protected as it was going to be and (d) I have done other deals that were good enough to be true.
But whether I sought legal advice or was gullible or greedy or a moron or didn't consider the downside or whatever/however else you want to judge me - the point remains the same - none of this gives Ajay any right to retain our money. He has not found suitable alternative deals in a fair and reasonable timeframe and therefore is NOT abiding by his terms and conditions.
Bottom line is the law is being broken and whether we are "punters" or "clients", "stupid" or "savvy" - Ajay should be refunding fees on the basis of not fulfilling his own T&C's.
So how about quitting the personal attacks, sticking to the facts and offering up something constructive for people to learn from and appreciate (like how, more specifically, you became so successful or how you source and structure property deals).
Or perhaps you are just Ajay blogging under a different ID?!
Simon - have you received any deals from Ajay yet as per his repsonse to you?
I haven't - but no surprises there!
Ajay - any comments on the lack of deals........
CC
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-17 09:30:24
I had a very near miss with Ahuja.
I was offered what looked like a very good deal from a supposed portfolio in Manchester.
The deals seemed to stack up with very good yields.
Thankfully due to my location, I was able to find the properties & saw that nearly all of them had a Compulsory Purchase Order notice on them.
So much for Ahujas due-diligence!!!
Ed
I was offered what looked like a very good deal from a supposed portfolio in Manchester.
The deals seemed to stack up with very good yields.
Thankfully due to my location, I was able to find the properties & saw that nearly all of them had a Compulsory Purchase Order notice on them.
So much for Ahujas due-diligence!!!
Ed
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finny wrote this on 2009-11-17 09:42:13
Hi Corinna,
i am still engrossed in this thread, as we all are. In my only post i effectively stuck up for Ajay, but yes i'd like to ask the question too...Twatty, are you ajay under a different ID? I have have neither gained or lost from Ajay ahuja but again i would like to re-suggest(?) the following:
"NOTE TO AJAY -You seem like a good guy, i'd even enjoy a pint in your company, but for the sake of a few grand your reputation is worth oh so much more than that. i'd hand back 31 x £3,000 and hold my head high and get these negative people out of my life for good"
Now, when i mean negative i don't mean nonpositive in their outlook. i mean negative to all the things condusive to building a good brand name and reputation for the ahuja group. You can have 99% success but 1% failure soon gets publicised and that is all that people focus on (like the papers always say "50,000 homes repossessed!!!!!", when there are 10,000,000 that havent been - people only hear the bad stuff). I would have thought one of your goals would have been 100%.
anyway, good luck to all in your own quests for closure.
finny
i am still engrossed in this thread, as we all are. In my only post i effectively stuck up for Ajay, but yes i'd like to ask the question too...Twatty, are you ajay under a different ID? I have have neither gained or lost from Ajay ahuja but again i would like to re-suggest(?) the following:
"NOTE TO AJAY -You seem like a good guy, i'd even enjoy a pint in your company, but for the sake of a few grand your reputation is worth oh so much more than that. i'd hand back 31 x £3,000 and hold my head high and get these negative people out of my life for good"
Now, when i mean negative i don't mean nonpositive in their outlook. i mean negative to all the things condusive to building a good brand name and reputation for the ahuja group. You can have 99% success but 1% failure soon gets publicised and that is all that people focus on (like the papers always say "50,000 homes repossessed!!!!!", when there are 10,000,000 that havent been - people only hear the bad stuff). I would have thought one of your goals would have been 100%.
anyway, good luck to all in your own quests for closure.
finny
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twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-17 09:55:05
Hi guys. No I am not Ajay blogging under another name and The Landlord can verify that! Will write more later when back at office! TB
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-17 10:46:51
Hi all,
I'd just to clarify that Twattybollocks is a regular user of this website. He uses his time and experience to help many people on this website with Landlording issues.
I can personally assure you all that Twattybollocks is definitely not Ajay.
Kind regards,
The Landlord.
I'd just to clarify that Twattybollocks is a regular user of this website. He uses his time and experience to help many people on this website with Landlording issues.
I can personally assure you all that Twattybollocks is definitely not Ajay.
Kind regards,
The Landlord.
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-17 11:19:06
Ajay seems to have gone very quiet.
I would love some feedback on the level of supposed due-diligence carried out by him & his team.
Also maybe he will confirm the names of the managers that look after his clients.
Ed
I would love some feedback on the level of supposed due-diligence carried out by him & his team.
Also maybe he will confirm the names of the managers that look after his clients.
Ed
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 12:59:19
Hi ed,
So would I.
I had a very near miss with Ahuja.
I was offered what looked like a very good deal from a supposed portfolio in Manchester.
The deals seemed to stack up with very good yields.
Thankfully due to my location, I was able to find the properties & saw that nearly all of them had a Compulsory Purchase Order notice on them.
So much for Ahujas due-diligence
There is not any. So clearly he tryed to shaft you. He tryed to sell you a load of shit. Take fees for shit. Fraud. Greed, stealing, shafting his own clients. An asehole. You were lucky
Simon I trusted him and nothing. Of course he gave it someone else. He already got your cash.
John Standring 07973322589
So would I.
I had a very near miss with Ahuja.
I was offered what looked like a very good deal from a supposed portfolio in Manchester.
The deals seemed to stack up with very good yields.
Thankfully due to my location, I was able to find the properties & saw that nearly all of them had a Compulsory Purchase Order notice on them.
So much for Ahujas due-diligence
There is not any. So clearly he tryed to shaft you. He tryed to sell you a load of shit. Take fees for shit. Fraud. Greed, stealing, shafting his own clients. An asehole. You were lucky
Simon I trusted him and nothing. Of course he gave it someone else. He already got your cash.
John Standring 07973322589
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-17 13:22:36
I did attend one of the ahuja seminars last year.
The seminar was good but I was put off by the finance guys there from Ahujas brokers who told me that virtually none of the deals put through from the office ever managed to get finance due to val's or the location/type of property.
Ed
The seminar was good but I was put off by the finance guys there from Ahujas brokers who told me that virtually none of the deals put through from the office ever managed to get finance due to val's or the location/type of property.
Ed
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 13:24:56
Hi Simon.
This is a great Blog. Lol.
Simon
after parting with 25k Ahuja Group wanted more cash on some of the deals to a third party. Not a small amount you are talking another £3k per properity. I asked for them to explain this but got no repli. Well not one worth a shit.
He just makes it up as he goes along and if you do not agree you lose the deal and your cash. Just gives you a worthless credit note.
So all ask him whats the 3rd party fee after the Ahuja Group fee?
thats like 6k befor you start. + aqusition costs. That could be 20k on a crap non yeailding deal, that costs you money to get rid of.
So be very carefull and vet every detail. I bet that he will not be able to supli you with a deal that stacks up. Cos he would rather give it to someone less informed than you and get extra fees.
Looking forward to you joining our campain. If I were you I would give him one final week to deliver then take court procedings as you will still me wating in a years time loosing time & pro fees allover the place.
Just talking from experince. Do it tha sen.
Call me if you wish.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
This is a great Blog. Lol.
Simon
after parting with 25k Ahuja Group wanted more cash on some of the deals to a third party. Not a small amount you are talking another £3k per properity. I asked for them to explain this but got no repli. Well not one worth a shit.
He just makes it up as he goes along and if you do not agree you lose the deal and your cash. Just gives you a worthless credit note.
So all ask him whats the 3rd party fee after the Ahuja Group fee?
thats like 6k befor you start. + aqusition costs. That could be 20k on a crap non yeailding deal, that costs you money to get rid of.
So be very carefull and vet every detail. I bet that he will not be able to supli you with a deal that stacks up. Cos he would rather give it to someone less informed than you and get extra fees.
Looking forward to you joining our campain. If I were you I would give him one final week to deliver then take court procedings as you will still me wating in a years time loosing time & pro fees allover the place.
Just talking from experince. Do it tha sen.
Call me if you wish.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-17 13:33:54
OK.
@Ed et al: Due dilligence is a two way thing!It is up to the potential purchaser to undertake due dilligence too.
@John Standring: I would be very careful about calling him a "scammer" or accusing him of fraud, hypothesising whether he should be in jail or elsewhere in a public forum as you are bordering on libel and defamation of character. He, as yet, has not been found guilty of anything relating to you (or anyone else posting on this site) and trial by kangaroo court will not do you much good if you win your four grand back only to be counter sued by Ajay. He can probably afford better lawyers and punitive damages for libel etc can run into the tens of thousands!
The reason he has gone quiet could be because he is collecting evidence to be used later!! Think about it!!!
Also the landlord set this site up and does not censor posts - I would hate for him to have to do so because of some litigious comment made.
Corinna - I apologise for attacking you personally BUT you are stuck in this thing and can't see how it looks from the outside! I do not have the entire picture BUT I can see that this looked like a too good to be true opportunity.
My portfolio has been built up by buying in good rental areas, supplying high quality accomodation and charging reasonable rents. I negotiate hard at purchase and walk away from those that do not agree to drop their asking price to what I want to pay. I have bought properties with plenty of equity to ensure that as the house prices rise over the next 5 - 10 years my portfolio will increase in value.
Simple - If a deal looks too good to be true - then it probably is.
I know that people can be persuasive talkers BUT that is why it is important to get a second opinion from either a solicitor or at least someone who has experience in this sort of thing. It's not good enough to say I have used other property locating companies and they were ok! That is a strategy that is flawed and frankly silly - you might as well go down to the bookies and place it on the nose of some random horse! If people are making decisions based on what the persons house is like or what car he drives or his Versace suits then that is crazy. People can be broke at a higher level.
Ajay SAYS he is a millionaire but who really knows? Corrina you state that you undertook as much due dilligence as you though necessary and, as you say, hindsight is a wonderful thing but can't you see that you are partly to blame in this and it is unfair to expect Ajay to refund your entire fee?
Anyway - it would appear that no one who is complaining here is prepared to take responsibility for their actions and this is becoming a public character assasination of Ajay.
I am not defending him per se - if he HAS wronged you then he should be made to pay BUT it has to be done through the correct channels. You will have your day in court I am sure but, as I stated at the beginning, becareful what you are saying as I wuld hate for someone to be counter sued for a silly remark.
Twattybollocks
@Ed et al: Due dilligence is a two way thing!It is up to the potential purchaser to undertake due dilligence too.
@John Standring: I would be very careful about calling him a "scammer" or accusing him of fraud, hypothesising whether he should be in jail or elsewhere in a public forum as you are bordering on libel and defamation of character. He, as yet, has not been found guilty of anything relating to you (or anyone else posting on this site) and trial by kangaroo court will not do you much good if you win your four grand back only to be counter sued by Ajay. He can probably afford better lawyers and punitive damages for libel etc can run into the tens of thousands!
The reason he has gone quiet could be because he is collecting evidence to be used later!! Think about it!!!
Also the landlord set this site up and does not censor posts - I would hate for him to have to do so because of some litigious comment made.
Corinna - I apologise for attacking you personally BUT you are stuck in this thing and can't see how it looks from the outside! I do not have the entire picture BUT I can see that this looked like a too good to be true opportunity.
My portfolio has been built up by buying in good rental areas, supplying high quality accomodation and charging reasonable rents. I negotiate hard at purchase and walk away from those that do not agree to drop their asking price to what I want to pay. I have bought properties with plenty of equity to ensure that as the house prices rise over the next 5 - 10 years my portfolio will increase in value.
Simple - If a deal looks too good to be true - then it probably is.
I know that people can be persuasive talkers BUT that is why it is important to get a second opinion from either a solicitor or at least someone who has experience in this sort of thing. It's not good enough to say I have used other property locating companies and they were ok! That is a strategy that is flawed and frankly silly - you might as well go down to the bookies and place it on the nose of some random horse! If people are making decisions based on what the persons house is like or what car he drives or his Versace suits then that is crazy. People can be broke at a higher level.
Ajay SAYS he is a millionaire but who really knows? Corrina you state that you undertook as much due dilligence as you though necessary and, as you say, hindsight is a wonderful thing but can't you see that you are partly to blame in this and it is unfair to expect Ajay to refund your entire fee?
Anyway - it would appear that no one who is complaining here is prepared to take responsibility for their actions and this is becoming a public character assasination of Ajay.
I am not defending him per se - if he HAS wronged you then he should be made to pay BUT it has to be done through the correct channels. You will have your day in court I am sure but, as I stated at the beginning, becareful what you are saying as I wuld hate for someone to be counter sued for a silly remark.
Twattybollocks
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-17 13:43:37
All due respect twatty, you would expect a company charging over £3k for a pdf do to some of there own due-diligence.
As mentioned before, it is hard to research anything when the ahuja policy is to disclose no information to clients.
Also, do you really think it is ethical to sell properties with CPO's on them?
Ed
As mentioned before, it is hard to research anything when the ahuja policy is to disclose no information to clients.
Also, do you really think it is ethical to sell properties with CPO's on them?
Ed
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 13:52:31
Hi to all
REFUND NOT
What about this.
Ahduja Group Fee 3K
+ New third party Fee 3K.
Eventualy his clients get pissed off and canot stand the BS any longer. Insists on a refund or court.
The origonal deals were £3kish, but now they are 6k.
So he now offers the third party fee back as a gesture of good will after a hell of alot of troubble and delaying tacticics,AGROW Hasal. What I nice guy. The client goes away sort of half happy that he has not lost the full 6k. Sort of a 50/50 thing. Lol what a guy. He just shafted his client for 3k but it looks like he is giving somesort of refund.
He still has the 3K which is all he was after in the first place. X that by 100.
So on the TV he says that he has refunded 25 people in the last year. Were they full refunds? Bet he wont give details of any on oath in court. With there statment of satisfaction.
Regards all, John Standring 07973322589
REFUND NOT
What about this.
Ahduja Group Fee 3K
+ New third party Fee 3K.
Eventualy his clients get pissed off and canot stand the BS any longer. Insists on a refund or court.
The origonal deals were £3kish, but now they are 6k.
So he now offers the third party fee back as a gesture of good will after a hell of alot of troubble and delaying tacticics,AGROW Hasal. What I nice guy. The client goes away sort of half happy that he has not lost the full 6k. Sort of a 50/50 thing. Lol what a guy. He just shafted his client for 3k but it looks like he is giving somesort of refund.
He still has the 3K which is all he was after in the first place. X that by 100.
So on the TV he says that he has refunded 25 people in the last year. Were they full refunds? Bet he wont give details of any on oath in court. With there statment of satisfaction.
Regards all, John Standring 07973322589
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 14:01:17
Answer Ed twatty Lol.
I will. no its not.
I think when it gets to 40 against Ahuja we should go to the police. Anyone from any fraud squad want to talk to me off the record please contact me privately on my mobile or Email.
Regards John 07973322589 johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
I will. no its not.
I think when it gets to 40 against Ahuja we should go to the police. Anyone from any fraud squad want to talk to me off the record please contact me privately on my mobile or Email.
Regards John 07973322589 johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 14:21:29
Hi Twattybollocks.
I payed him to do all that. He does not. Just changes his deal all the time. I was suposed to just give it a once over. When I did, they do not stack up so its the end. They are not even close. I payed him to do all that. My time was suposed to looking after my portpholio. + wanted to cotinue buying through my team (or his) of experts. Dream on.
If he came up with the goods no problem!
No name policy, whats that all about? Crazy. He is stealing.
John Standring 07973322589
I payed him to do all that. He does not. Just changes his deal all the time. I was suposed to just give it a once over. When I did, they do not stack up so its the end. They are not even close. I payed him to do all that. My time was suposed to looking after my portpholio. + wanted to cotinue buying through my team (or his) of experts. Dream on.
If he came up with the goods no problem!
No name policy, whats that all about? Crazy. He is stealing.
John Standring 07973322589
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-17 14:32:20
Cor, John, you dish your phone number out like it's candy :)
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-17 14:33:31
unlike mr ahuja who seems very reluctant to give out any info at all.
ed
ed
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-17 14:37:48
ha, good point, Ed.
But he did give his personal email address earlier, which I know he checks/uses on a daily basis!
I know Ajay reads this page on a daily basis, so I'm hoping he'll respond to some of your questions/queries.
Either way, I hope everything gets resolved for everyone.
But he did give his personal email address earlier, which I know he checks/uses on a daily basis!
I know Ajay reads this page on a daily basis, so I'm hoping he'll respond to some of your questions/queries.
Either way, I hope everything gets resolved for everyone.
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-17 14:56:45
John - what the hell are you on about??
If you want to be taken seriously please at least re-read your posts and make sure they make at least some kind of sense!
The idea of due dilligence is this (in the real world anyway). I go to buy a company. My lawyers and their lawyers get together and discuss the deal. They draw up paperwork and everyone goes off to check that I's are dotted T's are crossed and that I am actually buying a company and not a piece of Red Leicester cheese (others cheeses are available). When they are happy they contact each other again - swap paperwork and check once again that all is well.
If OK the company becomes mine.
Your idea of due dilligence is - they do the due dilligence (not a great idea when you REALLY think about it) and send you a draft contract - YOU then decide that it looks OK and agree. Simplified maybe but that is how I read it.
Say for example (and it really only is an example for F**s sake!!) you were in the market for a bridge. I say "I have one for sale - been around a few years, well constructed, bit of rust, but in very popular area. Tell you what - its yours for £30k. Dont worry, I will make sure everything is above board you sit back on your arse and do sod all"
You give me your £30k and I send you a photo of Tower Bridge in london and tell you it's now yours. Are you smelling a rat yet? Why on earth would you give anyone - let alone a complete stranger (be he in a very nice suit/house/car/whatever) your money when you don't know what you are buying????
If the Ahuja group say "you can't have the details till you pay us £4 grand" - why is you bullsh*t radar not clanging away like Big Ben? It's not rocket science is it?
Calm down Twatty!!!!..........
@Ed: You are paying them £3 grand to do their own DD so they can ensure THEY are not getting (allegedly) stiffed!!!!! Why pay for a service yourself when you can get some mug to do it for you??
As far as I am aware it is not illegal to sell a property with a CPO on it but if anyone out there knows for a fact I stand to be corrected. Anyway - it is YOUR SOLICITOR who would normally uncover the fact they were CPO'd when they ran local council searches (part of your due dilligence).
@John: I really would stop talking about fraud/stealing etc. Now, I am not a lawyer but it is probably more a case of (allegedly) deception so why not leave it to the professionals otherwise you could make yourself look very silly especially when you print your phone number!
Hope you are enjoying reading this thread Ajay - bet you are off on some island somewhere drinking Mojito's and polishing your wallet!
Twatty
If you want to be taken seriously please at least re-read your posts and make sure they make at least some kind of sense!
The idea of due dilligence is this (in the real world anyway). I go to buy a company. My lawyers and their lawyers get together and discuss the deal. They draw up paperwork and everyone goes off to check that I's are dotted T's are crossed and that I am actually buying a company and not a piece of Red Leicester cheese (others cheeses are available). When they are happy they contact each other again - swap paperwork and check once again that all is well.
If OK the company becomes mine.
Your idea of due dilligence is - they do the due dilligence (not a great idea when you REALLY think about it) and send you a draft contract - YOU then decide that it looks OK and agree. Simplified maybe but that is how I read it.
Say for example (and it really only is an example for F**s sake!!) you were in the market for a bridge. I say "I have one for sale - been around a few years, well constructed, bit of rust, but in very popular area. Tell you what - its yours for £30k. Dont worry, I will make sure everything is above board you sit back on your arse and do sod all"
You give me your £30k and I send you a photo of Tower Bridge in london and tell you it's now yours. Are you smelling a rat yet? Why on earth would you give anyone - let alone a complete stranger (be he in a very nice suit/house/car/whatever) your money when you don't know what you are buying????
If the Ahuja group say "you can't have the details till you pay us £4 grand" - why is you bullsh*t radar not clanging away like Big Ben? It's not rocket science is it?
Calm down Twatty!!!!..........
@Ed: You are paying them £3 grand to do their own DD so they can ensure THEY are not getting (allegedly) stiffed!!!!! Why pay for a service yourself when you can get some mug to do it for you??
As far as I am aware it is not illegal to sell a property with a CPO on it but if anyone out there knows for a fact I stand to be corrected. Anyway - it is YOUR SOLICITOR who would normally uncover the fact they were CPO'd when they ran local council searches (part of your due dilligence).
@John: I really would stop talking about fraud/stealing etc. Now, I am not a lawyer but it is probably more a case of (allegedly) deception so why not leave it to the professionals otherwise you could make yourself look very silly especially when you print your phone number!
Hope you are enjoying reading this thread Ajay - bet you are off on some island somewhere drinking Mojito's and polishing your wallet!
Twatty
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:02:24
Hi All
Do you want his mobile, his call center address + company that he uses. Names of staff. Names of staff that have left and are also pissed off. Had a private dective rootaround abit. Saves me the bother.
When he has given refunds he has put gagging orders on his members. I wonder why?
I dont mind people having my number I have nothing to hide.
If the courts put me in front of the Queen Id tell her as it is.
Regards John Standing 07973322589
Do you want his mobile, his call center address + company that he uses. Names of staff. Names of staff that have left and are also pissed off. Had a private dective rootaround abit. Saves me the bother.
When he has given refunds he has put gagging orders on his members. I wonder why?
I dont mind people having my number I have nothing to hide.
If the courts put me in front of the Queen Id tell her as it is.
Regards John Standing 07973322589
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:10:37
You hired a private detective, like Columbo? That's pretty hardcore, John :)
Please don't publish anyone else's personal details on here. Share and share-alike behind the scenes, by all means...
Please don't publish anyone else's personal details on here. Share and share-alike behind the scenes, by all means...
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:18:00
Twatty bollocks.
You speak alot of common sense. Some times a bit of a bitter pill. I know what I should have done. Just making sure the word is out that Ahuja is not to be trusted.
Just because he can get away with it, dosent mean he should do it. So we will have our day in court and he is making enimes for life.
John Standring.
You speak alot of common sense. Some times a bit of a bitter pill. I know what I should have done. Just making sure the word is out that Ahuja is not to be trusted.
Just because he can get away with it, dosent mean he should do it. So we will have our day in court and he is making enimes for life.
John Standring.
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:25:53
Landlord
I understand. Great Blog and web site. Well done.
John Standring
I understand. Great Blog and web site. Well done.
John Standring
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:31:49
Twattybollocks.
If Ahujas members did due dilligance to that extent Ahuja would not be in the trade. That would be a good thing.
I have learnt alot.!!
John Standring.
If Ahujas members did due dilligance to that extent Ahuja would not be in the trade. That would be a good thing.
I have learnt alot.!!
John Standring.
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:45:51
@John: Duhh!! (sound of hand slapping forehead)!
Twattybollocks
PS: I love Columbo! Perhaps if someone carked it we could see if we could get Quincy involved too!!!
Twattybollocks
PS: I love Columbo! Perhaps if someone carked it we could see if we could get Quincy involved too!!!
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:53:48
Twattybollocks
Lol. We ought to have a drink sometime I am sure you would piss youself. At my expence. Lol. Where are you from. Invite Landlord to.
Mabe Id leard abit more.
John Standring
Lol. We ought to have a drink sometime I am sure you would piss youself. At my expence. Lol. Where are you from. Invite Landlord to.
Mabe Id leard abit more.
John Standring
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 15:55:02
Just dont ask for any cash up front.
John
John
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-17 16:39:06
Twatty,
The unfortunate thing is that by the time you have found out there are CPO's on the properties, Ahuja already has your money & refuses to give it back.
Hence the reason I did not proceed with any deals.
Ajay also does not quote a timescale to find an alternative property & the T's & C's are totally stacked towards the Ahuja group not the client.
So basically its a case of what they consider to be an alternative.
So I suppose that could mean that he can find you another CPO property & class that as an alternative.
For someone who loves to quote his T's & C's to his poor clients, he seemed to totally miss the ones about the issue of a gas certificate to his tenant.
Ed
The unfortunate thing is that by the time you have found out there are CPO's on the properties, Ahuja already has your money & refuses to give it back.
Hence the reason I did not proceed with any deals.
Ajay also does not quote a timescale to find an alternative property & the T's & C's are totally stacked towards the Ahuja group not the client.
So basically its a case of what they consider to be an alternative.
So I suppose that could mean that he can find you another CPO property & class that as an alternative.
For someone who loves to quote his T's & C's to his poor clients, he seemed to totally miss the ones about the issue of a gas certificate to his tenant.
Ed
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-17 19:23:13
Hey John,
I'm from Lancashire but I have properties hera and in Cardiff.
Listen - dont get me wrong - taking the piss out of people who have lost money is not my bag. Quite the opposite. I really do hope you gat your money back!
@Ed et al: You could have a case against him due to unfair contract terms but I am sure Landlord action will cover the legal areas with you.
Twattybollocks
I'm from Lancashire but I have properties hera and in Cardiff.
Listen - dont get me wrong - taking the piss out of people who have lost money is not my bag. Quite the opposite. I really do hope you gat your money back!
@Ed et al: You could have a case against him due to unfair contract terms but I am sure Landlord action will cover the legal areas with you.
Twattybollocks
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dr ottaway wrote this on 2009-11-17 20:54:14
i know a jay personily as i have worked for him all of his houses in hull are not fit for pepole some houses are realy bad and he lets pepole stay in thses very bad conditions i think hull city council should close him down i no longer work for his company
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-17 23:45:55
Hi Twattybollocks,
I know you are just being the devils advocate. Youve got to laugh when you screw up. I am from Yorkshire. Lol.
But I will have my day.
dr ottaway.
Can you go see the tenants in hull and see if they all have landlord gas certificats. Ahuja got done 14k for ignoring the the law. and is now on a caution. They say that he will be back in court if he does not comply.
He is selling a few in Hull. What was he like to work for?
Call me privately if you want or Email in confidence. Where are you from?
Regards John Standring 07973322589 johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
John Standring.
I know you are just being the devils advocate. Youve got to laugh when you screw up. I am from Yorkshire. Lol.
But I will have my day.
dr ottaway.
Can you go see the tenants in hull and see if they all have landlord gas certificats. Ahuja got done 14k for ignoring the the law. and is now on a caution. They say that he will be back in court if he does not comply.
He is selling a few in Hull. What was he like to work for?
Call me privately if you want or Email in confidence. Where are you from?
Regards John Standring 07973322589 johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
John Standring.
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-18 14:13:47
To All. AHUJA NO SUBSTANCE NO REFUND NO SHAME.
Funny Ahuja seems to have gone again. Good vith the verb and theory, unfortunatly for his fee paying coustmors NO SUBSTANCE.
He is such a good lier he belives his own Bull S.
+ amazing he belives its fair to F*** people about for month or years. Carnt wait for the police to catch up with him. He called the police on TV. they said payup or they can take your car. That like 8 months after a judgment against him. He was still in denial. That stealing and you still can end up beliving what he says. Keep well away.
Will one recent blogger come forward and say Ahuja has gome up with the goods just one. Please verifi yourself with the Landlord.
Go on just one.
Heres another question, has he built anyone a true cash positive portpholio of properties??? Go on just one. Again please verifi with the Landlord. how about some accounts. Verified accounts. Lol.
I piss my self. sorry about the bad language just making a point. You can make fossils faster.
John Standring 07973322589 johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
Funny Ahuja seems to have gone again. Good vith the verb and theory, unfortunatly for his fee paying coustmors NO SUBSTANCE.
He is such a good lier he belives his own Bull S.
+ amazing he belives its fair to F*** people about for month or years. Carnt wait for the police to catch up with him. He called the police on TV. they said payup or they can take your car. That like 8 months after a judgment against him. He was still in denial. That stealing and you still can end up beliving what he says. Keep well away.
Will one recent blogger come forward and say Ahuja has gome up with the goods just one. Please verifi yourself with the Landlord.
Go on just one.
Heres another question, has he built anyone a true cash positive portpholio of properties??? Go on just one. Again please verifi with the Landlord. how about some accounts. Verified accounts. Lol.
I piss my self. sorry about the bad language just making a point. You can make fossils faster.
John Standring 07973322589 johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-18 14:20:16
Landlord
Please take Ahujas pic off this page or make it optional, how about a cartoon in its place. Has anyone got any ideas? Lol. His image makes be want to spit at my computor. Lol. Sorry hope thats alloud. Lol.
Regards John Standring
Please take Ahujas pic off this page or make it optional, how about a cartoon in its place. Has anyone got any ideas? Lol. His image makes be want to spit at my computor. Lol. Sorry hope thats alloud. Lol.
Regards John Standring
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Twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-18 14:25:12
John,
you really need to chill out mate - I know you are in for a fair bit of money but you will give yourself a brain heamorrage(?) if you dont calm down!!! ;-)
TB
you really need to chill out mate - I know you are in for a fair bit of money but you will give yourself a brain heamorrage(?) if you dont calm down!!! ;-)
TB
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Anuj Gupta wrote this on 2009-11-18 14:51:22
Hi Ajay,
I am one of the specific client who appeared on BBC programe and below is what you have written about me in the material sent to BBC. I would like to put the facts right here that I requested for refund when your sourcer conveyed to me that there is no time frame when the property will be made available.Further on 20th Oct your sourcer has confirmed that they will never be delivered , to quote his verbatim " I am afraid it looks as though these Oldham properties are unfortunately not going to come to fruition. There are too many hurdles to jump and my sincere apologies for any inconvenience." How would you like to defend that you are still holding my £7785 for the properties which will never be delivered .
Below is a excerpt about me written by Ajay in his response to BBC-
Anuj Gupta - Has been very unlucky with his property purchases to date; but we do not believe that the Ahuja Group has been at fault at any time. In February 2009 he purchased a deal that was subsequently removed from sale by the 3rd party source due to a down valuation that impacted the 3rd party?s? profitability despite some strong evidence supporting the original valuation. Anuj demanded a quick replacement or wanted a refund and in April 2009 he purchased 3 properties from a portfolio that was being broken up. After nearly 4 months of problems and delays one of the 3 properties was ready to be mortgaged but the other 2 needed refurbishment work before the lender would release the funds. There were delays between the 3rd party source and vendor with regards to arranging for completions of the works required so Anuj pulled out of the deals and stated he wanted a refund. The Ahuja Group, the 3rd party source, the solicitors, the finance company and the vendor all put in a significant amount of effort to make these 3 deals work and have significant evidence to support this. As he pulled out of the purchases we were unable to offer a refund.
I am one of the specific client who appeared on BBC programe and below is what you have written about me in the material sent to BBC. I would like to put the facts right here that I requested for refund when your sourcer conveyed to me that there is no time frame when the property will be made available.Further on 20th Oct your sourcer has confirmed that they will never be delivered , to quote his verbatim " I am afraid it looks as though these Oldham properties are unfortunately not going to come to fruition. There are too many hurdles to jump and my sincere apologies for any inconvenience." How would you like to defend that you are still holding my £7785 for the properties which will never be delivered .
Below is a excerpt about me written by Ajay in his response to BBC-
Anuj Gupta - Has been very unlucky with his property purchases to date; but we do not believe that the Ahuja Group has been at fault at any time. In February 2009 he purchased a deal that was subsequently removed from sale by the 3rd party source due to a down valuation that impacted the 3rd party?s? profitability despite some strong evidence supporting the original valuation. Anuj demanded a quick replacement or wanted a refund and in April 2009 he purchased 3 properties from a portfolio that was being broken up. After nearly 4 months of problems and delays one of the 3 properties was ready to be mortgaged but the other 2 needed refurbishment work before the lender would release the funds. There were delays between the 3rd party source and vendor with regards to arranging for completions of the works required so Anuj pulled out of the deals and stated he wanted a refund. The Ahuja Group, the 3rd party source, the solicitors, the finance company and the vendor all put in a significant amount of effort to make these 3 deals work and have significant evidence to support this. As he pulled out of the purchases we were unable to offer a refund.
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-18 16:16:16
Hi Anuj Gupta
Very pleased to make your aquantence, call me any time you want about these matters. 07973322589 or Email, where are you from, fancy a drink and a laugh about our best mate Ahuja
The Ahuja Group, the 3rd party source, the solicitors, the finance company
Lets look at something like this for example.
In your case no refund just blames you for everything. Happens alot with Ahuja. He got your cash what can you do.
In others its like this Ahuja 3K, 3rd party source etc 3K.
Ahuja Group no refund
the 3rd party source, the solicitors, the finance company and many others in the trade things don’t work out, they refund, for allsorts of reasons. Because its correct to do so. Also Ahuja will ask them to. Ahuja makes out he has refunded you. He hasent. He has just shafted his client for 3K
Ahuja Groups client gets 50% back, cuts his losses Ahuja keeps 3k which is all he wanted in the first place. The Client gets advise & realises it will take ayear to get his cash back if ever, if he has a team that can sort it, if the BBC will come with him, if he knowes where he is. Ahuja goes on TV and says he refunds all the time. He does not, watch the TV program, thats shows his intent to refund or not, Ignoring the court. So we all get pissed off with him.
That 3rd party could be anybody including Ahuja Group. We all lose money he just takes your cash for nothing. WHAT IS THAT CALLED _Fr___________en___St_______________________?
What else could it be. Please someone let me know.
How do you get your cash,
through the courts, high court baliff, car transporter, 2 visits from the BBC London insideout program, to his virtual office , to his home, Paul Shamplena Landlord Action, several people with very long standing Judgments against him, me because I got alot of people to gether who did not know each other, the police because he said it was harassment they said it was not. Pay up.
As you can see he has a good grasp of what is fair and he pays up at the first opptunity, to keep his group member happy like most people in his trade and acc. trades do. No he does not.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
Very pleased to make your aquantence, call me any time you want about these matters. 07973322589 or Email, where are you from, fancy a drink and a laugh about our best mate Ahuja
The Ahuja Group, the 3rd party source, the solicitors, the finance company
Lets look at something like this for example.
In your case no refund just blames you for everything. Happens alot with Ahuja. He got your cash what can you do.
In others its like this Ahuja 3K, 3rd party source etc 3K.
Ahuja Group no refund
the 3rd party source, the solicitors, the finance company and many others in the trade things don’t work out, they refund, for allsorts of reasons. Because its correct to do so. Also Ahuja will ask them to. Ahuja makes out he has refunded you. He hasent. He has just shafted his client for 3K
Ahuja Groups client gets 50% back, cuts his losses Ahuja keeps 3k which is all he wanted in the first place. The Client gets advise & realises it will take ayear to get his cash back if ever, if he has a team that can sort it, if the BBC will come with him, if he knowes where he is. Ahuja goes on TV and says he refunds all the time. He does not, watch the TV program, thats shows his intent to refund or not, Ignoring the court. So we all get pissed off with him.
That 3rd party could be anybody including Ahuja Group. We all lose money he just takes your cash for nothing. WHAT IS THAT CALLED _Fr___________en___St_______________________?
What else could it be. Please someone let me know.
How do you get your cash,
through the courts, high court baliff, car transporter, 2 visits from the BBC London insideout program, to his virtual office , to his home, Paul Shamplena Landlord Action, several people with very long standing Judgments against him, me because I got alot of people to gether who did not know each other, the police because he said it was harassment they said it was not. Pay up.
As you can see he has a good grasp of what is fair and he pays up at the first opptunity, to keep his group member happy like most people in his trade and acc. trades do. No he does not.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-18 16:34:30
To all,
I dont know all websites that are intrested in this sort of material. Lets get a list going!
So could you help me. Copy my blogs and cascade them where ever you want inc my Email and tel no. There is only so much I can do on my own to help everyone, thanks for the help and your intrest.
Please add your own comments and info on Ahuja.
Regards John Standring
I dont know all websites that are intrested in this sort of material. Lets get a list going!
So could you help me. Copy my blogs and cascade them where ever you want inc my Email and tel no. There is only so much I can do on my own to help everyone, thanks for the help and your intrest.
Please add your own comments and info on Ahuja.
Regards John Standring
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-19 09:12:12
Hi Anuj Gupta
look at this. You must be unreasnobal not to want Ahujas Group properties. Whats wrong with jumping over many hurdles and haveing a gun pointed at you or one of your tradsmen, your flats fire bomed. Allyou have to do is-
write Strathclyde Police, the local police, your MP in England, Argyll and Bute Council, the fire brigade and the Scottish Parliament asking for help . with tackling the vandalism and the antisocial behaviour associated with this address. Its a drain on local authorities' resources, for example on the local police force who had set up high profile patrols for this area. But as long as you(Ahuja) get what you want in the end. Who cares. So you must be unreasnobal not to accept Ahuja Group deals because they are high yealding hasal free properties. If you and your cashflow and the local athorites resorces survive. Lol. So please dont ask for you finders fee back just become a first class fire fighter. With a bulit proof vest. Lol.
If you want a Colour copy send me your Email address, + mobile. Regards john 07973322589.
To all pass this on please.
To all, to the Courts, to all investors, to Paul Shamplena Landlord action, to 30+ suing Ahuja, To brightstone law Landlord actions solisitors Azmon Rankohi, to the barrister involved, to the private detective involved, his staff, Ahuja does not care who he inconvineces, just as long as he gets what he wants and that your cash. If it cost others 200k to give him 10K he will do it. He is reckless with your time and your cash. No shame whatsoever.
Excuse. Wait for it. He was doing the comunity good. Lol.
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Published: Friday, 11th September, 2009 4:34pm
Fire was last straw
by Fiona Howard
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Refurbishment underway
A MAINTENANCE man working on a block of flats in Helensburgh had a gun pulled on him by a squatter and then two flats were gutted by a deliberate fireraising …
And that was the final straw for owner Ajay Ahuja who had bought the 10 flats in West Princes Street thinking that Helensburgh was a "lovely area" and a good place to invest in.
He and his partner Hana Mayerova, who own a portfolio of rental properties all over Britain through their company Ahuja Holdings, bought the block of 10 flats at 51 West Princes Street two years ago.
Hana said: "We have purchased this property consisting of 10 flats in 2008, thinking that Helensburgh was a very nice area and it would be good to add to our property portfolio, consisting mainly of properties located in "rough" areas, some properties located in good area.
"But what a surprise! Within days the 10 flats which were purchased as vacant possession, went under attack from vandals and seemed to became the centre of antisocial behaviour. All the flats were being constantly vandalised."
She continued: "After repeated securing of the properties and repairs to the flats it would always be back to square one. The repairs and maintenance had been made even more difficult because our property maintenance contractor's vehicles were being vandalised in broad daylight while they were working in the flats.
"So it became impossible to find a builder willing to work on the site, impossible also to find a local letting agency to even become the key holder for these properties.
"During this time there had been almost daily incidents of vandalism and malicious damage to the properties which the police were called to. This would range from windows being broken to proper break ins and vandalism inside the flats. Two vehicles were vandalised.
"One of the flats had been invaded by a squatter who had pulled a gun at one of our maintenance team who unsuspectingly entered the property thinking it was vacant.
"When we managed to find tenants they were being chased away. One of our tenants was even assaulted by invaders."
The tale of destruction and terror culminated in April 2008 with a serious fire being set in the building by intruders. This fire completely destroyed two top floor flats and did quite a bit of damage to the building as a whole.
Ajay and Hana began to despair and Ajay said: "The fire incident was the final straw. I had had enough and I wrote to Strathclyde Police, the local police, our MP in England, Argyll and Bute Council, the fire brigade and the Scottish Parliament asking for help . with tackling the vandalism and the antisocial behaviour associated with this address.
"The response was amazing and there is no trouble now, the flats are finished and we have three tenants in place and are able to look for more."
Hana said: "We understand what a drain this must have been on local authorities' resources, for example on the local police force who had set up high profile patrols for this area and we would like to say how grateful we are to them for tackling the vandalism and antisocial behaviour in this area. They went out of their way while they do not have unlimited resources.
"The fact that the vandalism was stopped has enabled us to get on with the repair and refurbishment of the whole building and we would like to offer the flats to local people who are looking for accommodation.
"However, what we are finding is that people are 'wary' and aware of the reputation this address had in the past and it is proving difficult to convince people that this place is now safe and that if they took residence there their homes would not get broken into and their possessions stolen and they would not get chased away at night out of their homes by vandals as its been happening in the past. The flats are now extra secure with reinforced steel doors and CCTV in operation."
Ajay and Hana would like to especially thank Helensburgh Police, Strathclyde police, Strathclyde Fire and Rescue, Argyll and Bute Council, Helensburgh antisocial behaviour unit, Robert Cowper, community safety co-ordinator and Malcolm Moss MP.
Ajay said: "I am so pleased with the completed flats and with the response we got from the authorities. I would be quite happy to invest in the area again should the opportunity arises."
Anyone interested in renting one of the flats at 51 West Princes Street should call Ajay and Hana on 08700669489 to arrange a viewing.
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Nicholas Van Hoogstraaten would never have had this problem.
All these amateur buy-to-let landlords who get bargains dont seem to realise there is always a catch. And when the catch is an unruly gun-toting local thicket then its worthwhile passing on the opportunity.
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look at this. You must be unreasnobal not to want Ahujas Group properties. Whats wrong with jumping over many hurdles and haveing a gun pointed at you or one of your tradsmen, your flats fire bomed. Allyou have to do is-
write Strathclyde Police, the local police, your MP in England, Argyll and Bute Council, the fire brigade and the Scottish Parliament asking for help . with tackling the vandalism and the antisocial behaviour associated with this address. Its a drain on local authorities' resources, for example on the local police force who had set up high profile patrols for this area. But as long as you(Ahuja) get what you want in the end. Who cares. So you must be unreasnobal not to accept Ahuja Group deals because they are high yealding hasal free properties. If you and your cashflow and the local athorites resorces survive. Lol. So please dont ask for you finders fee back just become a first class fire fighter. With a bulit proof vest. Lol.
If you want a Colour copy send me your Email address, + mobile. Regards john 07973322589.
To all pass this on please.
To all, to the Courts, to all investors, to Paul Shamplena Landlord action, to 30+ suing Ahuja, To brightstone law Landlord actions solisitors Azmon Rankohi, to the barrister involved, to the private detective involved, his staff, Ahuja does not care who he inconvineces, just as long as he gets what he wants and that your cash. If it cost others 200k to give him 10K he will do it. He is reckless with your time and your cash. No shame whatsoever.
Excuse. Wait for it. He was doing the comunity good. Lol.
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Published: Friday, 11th September, 2009 4:34pm
Fire was last straw
by Fiona Howard
Comments (2) | Print | Email
Refurbishment underway
A MAINTENANCE man working on a block of flats in Helensburgh had a gun pulled on him by a squatter and then two flats were gutted by a deliberate fireraising …
And that was the final straw for owner Ajay Ahuja who had bought the 10 flats in West Princes Street thinking that Helensburgh was a "lovely area" and a good place to invest in.
He and his partner Hana Mayerova, who own a portfolio of rental properties all over Britain through their company Ahuja Holdings, bought the block of 10 flats at 51 West Princes Street two years ago.
Hana said: "We have purchased this property consisting of 10 flats in 2008, thinking that Helensburgh was a very nice area and it would be good to add to our property portfolio, consisting mainly of properties located in "rough" areas, some properties located in good area.
"But what a surprise! Within days the 10 flats which were purchased as vacant possession, went under attack from vandals and seemed to became the centre of antisocial behaviour. All the flats were being constantly vandalised."
She continued: "After repeated securing of the properties and repairs to the flats it would always be back to square one. The repairs and maintenance had been made even more difficult because our property maintenance contractor's vehicles were being vandalised in broad daylight while they were working in the flats.
"So it became impossible to find a builder willing to work on the site, impossible also to find a local letting agency to even become the key holder for these properties.
"During this time there had been almost daily incidents of vandalism and malicious damage to the properties which the police were called to. This would range from windows being broken to proper break ins and vandalism inside the flats. Two vehicles were vandalised.
"One of the flats had been invaded by a squatter who had pulled a gun at one of our maintenance team who unsuspectingly entered the property thinking it was vacant.
"When we managed to find tenants they were being chased away. One of our tenants was even assaulted by invaders."
The tale of destruction and terror culminated in April 2008 with a serious fire being set in the building by intruders. This fire completely destroyed two top floor flats and did quite a bit of damage to the building as a whole.
Ajay and Hana began to despair and Ajay said: "The fire incident was the final straw. I had had enough and I wrote to Strathclyde Police, the local police, our MP in England, Argyll and Bute Council, the fire brigade and the Scottish Parliament asking for help . with tackling the vandalism and the antisocial behaviour associated with this address.
"The response was amazing and there is no trouble now, the flats are finished and we have three tenants in place and are able to look for more."
Hana said: "We understand what a drain this must have been on local authorities' resources, for example on the local police force who had set up high profile patrols for this area and we would like to say how grateful we are to them for tackling the vandalism and antisocial behaviour in this area. They went out of their way while they do not have unlimited resources.
"The fact that the vandalism was stopped has enabled us to get on with the repair and refurbishment of the whole building and we would like to offer the flats to local people who are looking for accommodation.
"However, what we are finding is that people are 'wary' and aware of the reputation this address had in the past and it is proving difficult to convince people that this place is now safe and that if they took residence there their homes would not get broken into and their possessions stolen and they would not get chased away at night out of their homes by vandals as its been happening in the past. The flats are now extra secure with reinforced steel doors and CCTV in operation."
Ajay and Hana would like to especially thank Helensburgh Police, Strathclyde police, Strathclyde Fire and Rescue, Argyll and Bute Council, Helensburgh antisocial behaviour unit, Robert Cowper, community safety co-ordinator and Malcolm Moss MP.
Ajay said: "I am so pleased with the completed flats and with the response we got from the authorities. I would be quite happy to invest in the area again should the opportunity arises."
Anyone interested in renting one of the flats at 51 West Princes Street should call Ajay and Hana on 08700669489 to arrange a viewing.
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Nicholas Van Hoogstraaten would never have had this problem.
All these amateur buy-to-let landlords who get bargains dont seem to realise there is always a catch. And when the catch is an unruly gun-toting local thicket then its worthwhile passing on the opportunity.
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-19 09:31:05
Ajay
I despair seeing some of your deals was the final straw. please return 25k + 5k in lost pro fees, court fees etc, and give me some of the help I need, (the sort of help you have asked of others) so I can move on with my life and put this all behind me. ps. you owe my alot more in compensation. So pay up. Or do I need a Judge to sort it for me.
RSVP to me here.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
Ajay and Hana began to despair and Ajay said: "The fire incident was the final straw. I had had enough and I wrote to Strathclyde Police, the local police, our MP in England, Argyll and Bute Council, the fire brigade and the Scottish Parliament asking for help . with tackling the vandalism and the antisocial behaviour associated with this address.
I despair seeing some of your deals was the final straw. please return 25k + 5k in lost pro fees, court fees etc, and give me some of the help I need, (the sort of help you have asked of others) so I can move on with my life and put this all behind me. ps. you owe my alot more in compensation. So pay up. Or do I need a Judge to sort it for me.
RSVP to me here.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
Ajay and Hana began to despair and Ajay said: "The fire incident was the final straw. I had had enough and I wrote to Strathclyde Police, the local police, our MP in England, Argyll and Bute Council, the fire brigade and the Scottish Parliament asking for help . with tackling the vandalism and the antisocial behaviour associated with this address.
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juls wrote this on 2009-11-19 11:12:57
God is about to drag Ahuja down from his mean frudulent business activity.The weakeds are punished by God himself
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-19 13:26:00
Hi all
Whats up where have you all gone. I am getting that Ahuja feeling again. Alot in nothing out.
John.
Whats up where have you all gone. I am getting that Ahuja feeling again. Alot in nothing out.
John.
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Ajay's Victim wrote this on 2009-11-23 11:10:47
Hello Everyone,
To update on my case ((£6000/-) post 40 above (NS wrote this on 2009-11-17 00:55:19), I have sent legal notice to Ahuja Group. I have been suggested that taking legal actions will be useless as Ajay Ahuja do not have offices in The Amphenol Business Complex.
But I will take him to court - no matter what. I would suggest everyone do the same. As shown on the TV, every one shown on the TV had court cases againt Ajay Ahuja. Without court cases against him, all these postings in the forums will not help.
I would urge everyone, please take legal actions against Ajay Ahuja, and have faith in the legal system. One court case against Ajay Ahuja may not affect him, but when there are 40-50 cases, we will defenitely see the results.
I am also taking up my case with the Serious Frauds Department.
Start counting your days Mr Ahuja, you cannot and will not get away with my hard earned money - not even a single penny. I have politely send you several requests (on your personal email address as well), but you don't respond. So I will talk in the language you understand and have understood in past.
Tracking you is no problem. You have been tracked once, and it will happen again.
NS
To update on my case ((£6000/-) post 40 above (NS wrote this on 2009-11-17 00:55:19), I have sent legal notice to Ahuja Group. I have been suggested that taking legal actions will be useless as Ajay Ahuja do not have offices in The Amphenol Business Complex.
But I will take him to court - no matter what. I would suggest everyone do the same. As shown on the TV, every one shown on the TV had court cases againt Ajay Ahuja. Without court cases against him, all these postings in the forums will not help.
I would urge everyone, please take legal actions against Ajay Ahuja, and have faith in the legal system. One court case against Ajay Ahuja may not affect him, but when there are 40-50 cases, we will defenitely see the results.
I am also taking up my case with the Serious Frauds Department.
Start counting your days Mr Ahuja, you cannot and will not get away with my hard earned money - not even a single penny. I have politely send you several requests (on your personal email address as well), but you don't respond. So I will talk in the language you understand and have understood in past.
Tracking you is no problem. You have been tracked once, and it will happen again.
NS
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-23 12:28:06
Dear Ajay - your post to me on 12th Nov at 13.59pm stated -
"I have had some excellent meetings with 3rd party sources and I am confident I can get you cashback deals or HMOs with high profits this month. I want to see that you get some great deals so you can tell everyone about it!"
However, I have still not been offered any such deals from you or your "company"/staff. You are still therefore not honouring your own T&C's as you have also not refunded my money.
I also know that you have failed to respond to Paul Shamplina following your recent meeting with him.
Any comments?
Any deals?
Regards - Corinna
"I have had some excellent meetings with 3rd party sources and I am confident I can get you cashback deals or HMOs with high profits this month. I want to see that you get some great deals so you can tell everyone about it!"
However, I have still not been offered any such deals from you or your "company"/staff. You are still therefore not honouring your own T&C's as you have also not refunded my money.
I also know that you have failed to respond to Paul Shamplina following your recent meeting with him.
Any comments?
Any deals?
Regards - Corinna
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-23 16:16:04
Hi Corinna,
I have received the ahuja mailshots for months & I have seen so many in which the mail starts with the words "I have had an excellent meeting".
All he has done is buy another months worth of interest with your money in his bank.
He just recycles the same old emails over & over again.
I notice he has gone very quiet on this forum.
He was happy enough to try to defend himself in an interview, but he seems to have hidden again.
Ed
I have received the ahuja mailshots for months & I have seen so many in which the mail starts with the words "I have had an excellent meeting".
All he has done is buy another months worth of interest with your money in his bank.
He just recycles the same old emails over & over again.
I notice he has gone very quiet on this forum.
He was happy enough to try to defend himself in an interview, but he seems to have hidden again.
Ed
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-23 18:41:30
Hi Ajays Victim.
Great post couldent agree more.
I am also taking up my case with the Serious Frauds Department.
Got more for you when you are ready Call me anytime 0n 07973322589
Regards John Standring
Great post couldent agree more.
I am also taking up my case with the Serious Frauds Department.
Got more for you when you are ready Call me anytime 0n 07973322589
Regards John Standring
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-23 20:31:49
TwattyBollocks where are you.
Missing your brutal home truths and sarcassem.
What do you think of the guns and fire at his poss high yeailders.
Regards John Standring.
Missing your brutal home truths and sarcassem.
What do you think of the guns and fire at his poss high yeailders.
Regards John Standring.
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twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-23 21:04:24
Hey John,
to be honest I was losing the will to live, as I am sure Ajay is with all the blustering and bollocks!
I was particualarly intreagued by the Fiona Howard post and the increasingly ranting posts!!
I reckon Ajay should go into the rubber room market. I am sure SOMEONE will by one!! LOL. Oh yes and the bit by juls stating that god was going to, let me get this correct, "about to drag Ahuja down from his mean frudulent business activity.The weakeds are punished by God himself ". Now that one really nearly did make me lose my tea through the nostrils.
Twattybollocks
to be honest I was losing the will to live, as I am sure Ajay is with all the blustering and bollocks!
I was particualarly intreagued by the Fiona Howard post and the increasingly ranting posts!!
I reckon Ajay should go into the rubber room market. I am sure SOMEONE will by one!! LOL. Oh yes and the bit by juls stating that god was going to, let me get this correct, "about to drag Ahuja down from his mean frudulent business activity.The weakeds are punished by God himself ". Now that one really nearly did make me lose my tea through the nostrils.
Twattybollocks
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ajay wrote this on 2009-11-23 21:53:25
hi twatty!
This thread starting off as reasonable debate but ended in hysteria and frankly scared me off!
I want to work with people who want to build portfolios but if you are not given the chance then how can I?
Corrina - you refused my offer for me to personally oversee your case. My team will continue to send deals and I hope a couple will meet with your expectations.
Simon - Thank you for taking on another deal and paying an extra £500 for the deal. Let me know if you have any problems.
John - as you are aware we are going to court. I have spoken to you on the phone and we will gladly source you deals. If you are having trouble getting a mortgage you can have a chat with my in house broker.
Ajay
This thread starting off as reasonable debate but ended in hysteria and frankly scared me off!
I want to work with people who want to build portfolios but if you are not given the chance then how can I?
Corrina - you refused my offer for me to personally oversee your case. My team will continue to send deals and I hope a couple will meet with your expectations.
Simon - Thank you for taking on another deal and paying an extra £500 for the deal. Let me know if you have any problems.
John - as you are aware we are going to court. I have spoken to you on the phone and we will gladly source you deals. If you are having trouble getting a mortgage you can have a chat with my in house broker.
Ajay
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-23 22:55:21
Mr Ahuja,
I have a feeling that the people also wanted to work with you to build a portfolio.
But when you get deal after deal that fails, very often purely down to the lack of dueuiligence carried out, you must understand that they lose all faith in you & "your team".
I know a lot of the time you blame the 3rd parties sourcers, but its you that asks for the £2k-£3.5k fee.
Also I have seen the email about the day in the life of a property sourcer in which it takes 25 minutes to produce a report!!!
How much of that time is spent researching a deal?
As i said in a previous post, how much duediligence was done when you offered a pile of properties in Manchester with CPO's on them??
I would appreciate a response from you.
Ed
I have a feeling that the people also wanted to work with you to build a portfolio.
But when you get deal after deal that fails, very often purely down to the lack of dueuiligence carried out, you must understand that they lose all faith in you & "your team".
I know a lot of the time you blame the 3rd parties sourcers, but its you that asks for the £2k-£3.5k fee.
Also I have seen the email about the day in the life of a property sourcer in which it takes 25 minutes to produce a report!!!
How much of that time is spent researching a deal?
As i said in a previous post, how much duediligence was done when you offered a pile of properties in Manchester with CPO's on them??
I would appreciate a response from you.
Ed
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ajay wrote this on 2009-11-23 23:00:20
hi ed,
That deal that came to us took us all by surprise. We do not carry out council searches on any properties we find. It was a big disappointment as the vendor had misled everyone.
I am not sure how we could prevent that from happening. If we had to do a search on every property we offered then our fees would have to go up.
Did you get a replacement? Are you still working with us? Do you want to work with us?
Ajay
That deal that came to us took us all by surprise. We do not carry out council searches on any properties we find. It was a big disappointment as the vendor had misled everyone.
I am not sure how we could prevent that from happening. If we had to do a search on every property we offered then our fees would have to go up.
Did you get a replacement? Are you still working with us? Do you want to work with us?
Ajay
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-11-23 23:13:48
Ajay.
That is not our deal. Sourceing. Spoken for 2min in one year same load of crap excuses you give. Dont you understand I can source crap myself. Your USA mortgage broker lost his mortgages and after a year of waiting I had had enough. He still took fees with nothing in return what so ever. Nothing new there then. Far to little far to late.
Then in the UK your broker canot deliver to all situations as you wrongley promiest.
Connect finance, seem ok. Ten min with them if they carnt deliver they say so, no money changes hand, no fighting to get your cash back.
You canot deliver your service as promiest to me, so return my cash.
On what basis do you think it ok to keep my cash when I have nothing of any value to me. 100% rubbish.
John Standring
That is not our deal. Sourceing. Spoken for 2min in one year same load of crap excuses you give. Dont you understand I can source crap myself. Your USA mortgage broker lost his mortgages and after a year of waiting I had had enough. He still took fees with nothing in return what so ever. Nothing new there then. Far to little far to late.
Then in the UK your broker canot deliver to all situations as you wrongley promiest.
Connect finance, seem ok. Ten min with them if they carnt deliver they say so, no money changes hand, no fighting to get your cash back.
You canot deliver your service as promiest to me, so return my cash.
On what basis do you think it ok to keep my cash when I have nothing of any value to me. 100% rubbish.
John Standring
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-23 23:47:06
Mr Ahuja,
Thankfully I parted with no money for the manchester "deals" as I was able to work out where the properties had been located.
It took less than 5 minutes to find out about the CPO's.
When I spoke to your office on the matter, they basically ignored me as I saw the deals still being offered.
So, they may have come as a surprise to you, but you still tried to sell them.
Did it not set off alarm bells when a landlord tried to offload a large number of properties in one batch???
I really dont see how you can justify £2k-£3.5k for a deal that has not been researched at all.
Would I want to work with you, NO!!!!!
Ed
Thankfully I parted with no money for the manchester "deals" as I was able to work out where the properties had been located.
It took less than 5 minutes to find out about the CPO's.
When I spoke to your office on the matter, they basically ignored me as I saw the deals still being offered.
So, they may have come as a surprise to you, but you still tried to sell them.
Did it not set off alarm bells when a landlord tried to offload a large number of properties in one batch???
I really dont see how you can justify £2k-£3.5k for a deal that has not been researched at all.
Would I want to work with you, NO!!!!!
Ed
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Anuj Gupta wrote this on 2009-11-24 14:26:44
Hi Ajay,
I still await to hear from you. As per your own admission on your website I am one of your unlucky customer who has no property to show after 9 months of investing with you despite paying promptly.
After four failed deals (Feb 009 , Apr 03/05/07) and losing my valuation money (£ 500 x1 + £795 x 3 = £2885)+ £5400 towards your fees = Total £8285, sceptical to put any more money into your deals .
The reason put up by you for not refunding my money was that you believed the last three deals were live but now your sourcer has confirmed that they will never come to fruition so what is the reason for holding the money now.
I look forward to hear from you.
Regards Anuj
I still await to hear from you. As per your own admission on your website I am one of your unlucky customer who has no property to show after 9 months of investing with you despite paying promptly.
After four failed deals (Feb 009 , Apr 03/05/07) and losing my valuation money (£ 500 x1 + £795 x 3 = £2885)+ £5400 towards your fees = Total £8285, sceptical to put any more money into your deals .
The reason put up by you for not refunding my money was that you believed the last three deals were live but now your sourcer has confirmed that they will never come to fruition so what is the reason for holding the money now.
I look forward to hear from you.
Regards Anuj
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-24 15:30:47
Mr Ahuja,
Can I aks what your team actually do?
As it seems that the blame always seems to be placed at the feet of your 3rd party sourcers when the deals fail.
Do your team just create a pdf report in 5 minutes & then ask for a couple of thousand pounds for it?
Your comment was that if you had to check with the council on every property, you would have to charge more.
But it seems that your team do very little work but you still want a few thousand pounds for a report.
Ed
Ed
Can I aks what your team actually do?
As it seems that the blame always seems to be placed at the feet of your 3rd party sourcers when the deals fail.
Do your team just create a pdf report in 5 minutes & then ask for a couple of thousand pounds for it?
Your comment was that if you had to check with the council on every property, you would have to charge more.
But it seems that your team do very little work but you still want a few thousand pounds for a report.
Ed
Ed
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-24 20:24:49
Ajay seems to have gone very quiet.
He must be busy counting other peoples money..lol
Ed
He must be busy counting other peoples money..lol
Ed
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-25 15:17:58
Hello Ajay,
You seem to have gone quiet all of a sudden.
Are you not able to defend your actions?
It is a fairly simple question.
What exactly does the £3k buy an investor?
Ed
You seem to have gone quiet all of a sudden.
Are you not able to defend your actions?
It is a fairly simple question.
What exactly does the £3k buy an investor?
Ed
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-25 16:22:19
Ajay (re: 23rd Nov posting) – please feel free to personally oversee my case. Go ahead! Bring it on! Knock yourself out!!! I am waiting......
Incidentally, on the basis that you’ve been having “some excellent meetings with 3rd party sources and you are confident you can get me cashback or HMO deals with high profits”, please can you explain why such deals haven’t been sent to me (yet)?
FYI - your team haven’t sent any suitable deals since my deals fell through. Please can you therefore explain why this is so if suitable alternative deals are in fact available, as you suggest?
Also, I note that you still haven’t answered questions from earlier blogs…
* if a deal doesn't go ahead what harm does it do you to refund fees if you're not conning people? The £3500 and £4000 of my money you have is certainly not a justified cost for the simple pdf I received.
* Also, if you are so successful, why do you operate your business this way?
* If you are legit why are you currently moving all of your assets?
* If you are genuine, honest and trustworthy why do all of these people have cases against you?
* if you are really "doing the right thing" why are so many of us feeling so wronged by you that we feel we have no choice but to take legal action against you?
* why on earth would you only contact me through this blog and not personally, especially given the seriousness of this matter?!
* And most notably, on 14th Nov – “Ajay - if you have some excellent deals why have they not been sent to me as part of my membership (and also your T&C's)???????????????????”
Yours - in waiting - Corinna
Incidentally, on the basis that you’ve been having “some excellent meetings with 3rd party sources and you are confident you can get me cashback or HMO deals with high profits”, please can you explain why such deals haven’t been sent to me (yet)?
FYI - your team haven’t sent any suitable deals since my deals fell through. Please can you therefore explain why this is so if suitable alternative deals are in fact available, as you suggest?
Also, I note that you still haven’t answered questions from earlier blogs…
* if a deal doesn't go ahead what harm does it do you to refund fees if you're not conning people? The £3500 and £4000 of my money you have is certainly not a justified cost for the simple pdf I received.
* Also, if you are so successful, why do you operate your business this way?
* If you are legit why are you currently moving all of your assets?
* If you are genuine, honest and trustworthy why do all of these people have cases against you?
* if you are really "doing the right thing" why are so many of us feeling so wronged by you that we feel we have no choice but to take legal action against you?
* why on earth would you only contact me through this blog and not personally, especially given the seriousness of this matter?!
* And most notably, on 14th Nov – “Ajay - if you have some excellent deals why have they not been sent to me as part of my membership (and also your T&C's)???????????????????”
Yours - in waiting - Corinna
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Dr Nogood wrote this on 2009-11-27 00:26:36
The hate in these threads makes me feel better. Thanks guys.
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-27 08:21:52
Ajay -
No response (here or to me personally)?
No deals either (from you ro your team)?
.................
No response (here or to me personally)?
No deals either (from you ro your team)?
.................
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-27 10:07:21
Communication seems to be a real problem here =/
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twattybollocks wrote this on 2009-11-27 10:41:37
I agree BUT is it because Ajay is just being a T*at or because he is not prepared to discuss this in open forum?
I have my own opinion on the matter as you can probably see from my previous posts!
Extract from ajay's post above:
"This thread starting off as reasonable debate but ended in hysteria and frankly scared me off!
I want to work with people who want to build portfolios but if you are not given the chance then how can I?
Corrina - you refused my offer for me to personally oversee your case. My team will continue to send deals and I hope a couple will meet with your expectations".
Corrina - according to Ajay's post you refused his offer to oversee your case. Arbitration would seem to be the way to go BUT it looks like that most of you just want to get your teeth in and try to get some money back when you should have considered the risks more appropriately in the first place!
The more you bleat, whinge, threaten and cadjole in open forum the more bonkers you all appear - whilst Ajay (looking like a complete c*nt) sits back and appears to do sod all. As they say any publicity is good publicity - but not being business people you would not understand that!
Anyway - keep up the diatribe cos I'm having knee surgery next week and I need something to amuse me whilst I am off counting my piles of gold and thinking up ways of extracting money from the criminally dim!! Thinking about writing a book - anyone want to make me an advance cos it would appear there are hundreds ney thousands out there still willing to part with their hard earned with little thought to the consequences.
Going to dedicate to book to "Ajay Ahuja - a man of vision who planted the seed, plucked the fruit when juicy and ripe and then fucked off"!
I have my own opinion on the matter as you can probably see from my previous posts!
Extract from ajay's post above:
"This thread starting off as reasonable debate but ended in hysteria and frankly scared me off!
I want to work with people who want to build portfolios but if you are not given the chance then how can I?
Corrina - you refused my offer for me to personally oversee your case. My team will continue to send deals and I hope a couple will meet with your expectations".
Corrina - according to Ajay's post you refused his offer to oversee your case. Arbitration would seem to be the way to go BUT it looks like that most of you just want to get your teeth in and try to get some money back when you should have considered the risks more appropriately in the first place!
The more you bleat, whinge, threaten and cadjole in open forum the more bonkers you all appear - whilst Ajay (looking like a complete c*nt) sits back and appears to do sod all. As they say any publicity is good publicity - but not being business people you would not understand that!
Anyway - keep up the diatribe cos I'm having knee surgery next week and I need something to amuse me whilst I am off counting my piles of gold and thinking up ways of extracting money from the criminally dim!! Thinking about writing a book - anyone want to make me an advance cos it would appear there are hundreds ney thousands out there still willing to part with their hard earned with little thought to the consequences.
Going to dedicate to book to "Ajay Ahuja - a man of vision who planted the seed, plucked the fruit when juicy and ripe and then fucked off"!
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The Landlord wrote this on 2009-11-27 10:57:40
Well, he doesn't seem to be contacting them on or off the blog, which I imagine to be frutsrating for those who are yet to receive a complete service.
Regardless of who is right or wrong here, surely the only way to resolve this is via communication. But it doesn't seem to be happening...
Regardless of who is right or wrong here, surely the only way to resolve this is via communication. But it doesn't seem to be happening...
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ed wrote this on 2009-11-27 17:04:28
Maybe twatty he has gone quiet because he has absolutely no defence for his actions.
It is a bit sad that you find this to be a joke to be honest.
People where only going for what they where told where genuine deals. And as I have said previously, it is hard to do any kind of duediligence when you are given very little info on a property.
Now maybe that is where people have been foolish, but Ajay does portray himself as a totally above board property sourcer.
But I have already mentioned the fact that I was offered properties in Manchester with CPO's against them, which indicates a total lack of research by his team.
Ed
It is a bit sad that you find this to be a joke to be honest.
People where only going for what they where told where genuine deals. And as I have said previously, it is hard to do any kind of duediligence when you are given very little info on a property.
Now maybe that is where people have been foolish, but Ajay does portray himself as a totally above board property sourcer.
But I have already mentioned the fact that I was offered properties in Manchester with CPO's against them, which indicates a total lack of research by his team.
Ed
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Corinna Cope wrote this on 2009-11-30 07:43:19
Ajay
You have still not been in touch with regards "personally overseeing my case".
I have still not received any suitable alternative deals - in fact I have not rceived any comms from you or your staff.
Any comments?
You have still not been in touch with regards "personally overseeing my case".
I have still not received any suitable alternative deals - in fact I have not rceived any comms from you or your staff.
Any comments?
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-12-01 09:14:12
Hi, Corinna Cope.
How he can make the excuses he does is unbelievable. He is a nutter, prob a psychopath. Very strange man. He has truly lost the plot. He is a serial liar that truly believes what he is saying is true and correct. It takes personal dealings with this nutter to truly realise how bad he is.
Allot of his stuff is correct for himself but if makes false promises of yields and being able to complete on deals when he can’t, his contacts cannot trade with you (the buyer) and nothing stacks up the he should return fees. Otherwise it is taking money off people for no return. Correct me if I am wrong but that fraud.
I have still not received any suitable alternative deals - in fact I have not rceived any comms from you or your staff.
If you are treated very badly by a company and I mean very badly like no contact for weeks, no deals and no chance of deals or no chance of compleating any deals that stack up as promesed, why should you have to trade with them. Or even want to carry on trading with them. Once the trust has been shattered and you know that they do very little for you, what is the point. They do not earn there fees in allot of cases so should refund.
We want completed deals not hypothetical situations that only work for the very few people. When you have looked at many deals and they do not stack up that it you have had enough crap and enough is enough.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/psychopath
•A person with a personality disorder indicated by a pattern of lying, exploitiveness, heedlessness, arrogance, sexual promiscuity, low self-control, and lack of empathy and remorse. ...
Just as a side note, on Crime files on TV. Fraudsters are called psychopaths.
Please note this has been copied off the internet. Regarding The Joker.
Interpersonal/emotional, characterized by:
• Superficial charm [true]
• A grandiose sense of self-worth [no, because his sense of what he can do—what he's worth—seems accurate]
• Pathological lying [true]
• Tendency to manipulate others [true]
• Doesn’t feel guilt or remorse [true]
• Shallow feelings [hard to say for sure]
• Lack of empathy [true]
• Doesn't accept responsibility for his or her actions [true—although he "claims" responsibility, he seeks to evade any negative repercussions of his actions]
The most amazing thing, however, is their selective memory. A psychopath might not remember the promises he made to you yesterday, but he will remember something from the past if it suits his purposes in some way. They often do this whenever they're confronted or caught in a lie.
What is very disturbing about psychopaths, besides their sense of special entitlement, is the complete lack of empathy for normal people, for "antisocials (psychopaths) seem to lack a conscience, feeling little or no empathy for the people whose lives they touch...the antisocial effortlessly resists all regulation, unable to see beyond his self-interest or to adopt standards of right versus wrong." [Black, XIII].
Do you believe that most fraudsters are psychopaths or do they just exhibit anti-social behavior?
Hare: There are many reasons why people engage in fraudulent behavior, some related to economic necessity, cultural, social, and peer pressures, special circumstances, opportunities, and so forth. Many of these people are small-time criminals just "doing their job," and their victims are relatively few in number. Much more problematic are fraudsters whose activities reflect a virulent mix of personality traits and behaviors including grandiosity; sense of entitlement; a propensity to lie, deceive, cheat, and manipulate; a lack of empathy and remorse; an inability to develop deep emotional and social connections with others; and the view that others are merely resources to be exploited - callously and without regret. These white-collar psychopaths often are heavily involved in obscenely lucrative scams of every sort. They lead lavish lifestyles while their victims lose their life savings, their dignity, and their health - a financial death penalty as one law enforcement officer put it. The public and the courts have difficulty in appreciating the enormity of the damage done by these social predators, and because their crimes often do not involve direct physical violence, they may receive comparatively light fines and sentences, and early parole. The money obtained from their depredations is seldom recovered, leaving the victims and the public bewildered and convinced that crime certainly does pay when committed by those whose charm, egocentricity, and deception disguise a flabby conscience.
Lol
John Standring.
How he can make the excuses he does is unbelievable. He is a nutter, prob a psychopath. Very strange man. He has truly lost the plot. He is a serial liar that truly believes what he is saying is true and correct. It takes personal dealings with this nutter to truly realise how bad he is.
Allot of his stuff is correct for himself but if makes false promises of yields and being able to complete on deals when he can’t, his contacts cannot trade with you (the buyer) and nothing stacks up the he should return fees. Otherwise it is taking money off people for no return. Correct me if I am wrong but that fraud.
I have still not received any suitable alternative deals - in fact I have not rceived any comms from you or your staff.
If you are treated very badly by a company and I mean very badly like no contact for weeks, no deals and no chance of deals or no chance of compleating any deals that stack up as promesed, why should you have to trade with them. Or even want to carry on trading with them. Once the trust has been shattered and you know that they do very little for you, what is the point. They do not earn there fees in allot of cases so should refund.
We want completed deals not hypothetical situations that only work for the very few people. When you have looked at many deals and they do not stack up that it you have had enough crap and enough is enough.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/psychopath
•A person with a personality disorder indicated by a pattern of lying, exploitiveness, heedlessness, arrogance, sexual promiscuity, low self-control, and lack of empathy and remorse. ...
Just as a side note, on Crime files on TV. Fraudsters are called psychopaths.
Please note this has been copied off the internet. Regarding The Joker.
Interpersonal/emotional, characterized by:
• Superficial charm [true]
• A grandiose sense of self-worth [no, because his sense of what he can do—what he's worth—seems accurate]
• Pathological lying [true]
• Tendency to manipulate others [true]
• Doesn’t feel guilt or remorse [true]
• Shallow feelings [hard to say for sure]
• Lack of empathy [true]
• Doesn't accept responsibility for his or her actions [true—although he "claims" responsibility, he seeks to evade any negative repercussions of his actions]
The most amazing thing, however, is their selective memory. A psychopath might not remember the promises he made to you yesterday, but he will remember something from the past if it suits his purposes in some way. They often do this whenever they're confronted or caught in a lie.
What is very disturbing about psychopaths, besides their sense of special entitlement, is the complete lack of empathy for normal people, for "antisocials (psychopaths) seem to lack a conscience, feeling little or no empathy for the people whose lives they touch...the antisocial effortlessly resists all regulation, unable to see beyond his self-interest or to adopt standards of right versus wrong." [Black, XIII].
Do you believe that most fraudsters are psychopaths or do they just exhibit anti-social behavior?
Hare: There are many reasons why people engage in fraudulent behavior, some related to economic necessity, cultural, social, and peer pressures, special circumstances, opportunities, and so forth. Many of these people are small-time criminals just "doing their job," and their victims are relatively few in number. Much more problematic are fraudsters whose activities reflect a virulent mix of personality traits and behaviors including grandiosity; sense of entitlement; a propensity to lie, deceive, cheat, and manipulate; a lack of empathy and remorse; an inability to develop deep emotional and social connections with others; and the view that others are merely resources to be exploited - callously and without regret. These white-collar psychopaths often are heavily involved in obscenely lucrative scams of every sort. They lead lavish lifestyles while their victims lose their life savings, their dignity, and their health - a financial death penalty as one law enforcement officer put it. The public and the courts have difficulty in appreciating the enormity of the damage done by these social predators, and because their crimes often do not involve direct physical violence, they may receive comparatively light fines and sentences, and early parole. The money obtained from their depredations is seldom recovered, leaving the victims and the public bewildered and convinced that crime certainly does pay when committed by those whose charm, egocentricity, and deception disguise a flabby conscience.
Lol
John Standring.
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-02 09:58:04
Mr Ahuja seems to have gone back into hiding.
Shame he cant spare us some time to answer questions posted on here.
Here was happy enough to use it to defend himself initially.
Shame he cant spare us some time to answer questions posted on here.
Here was happy enough to use it to defend himself initially.
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-12-02 16:59:52
Hare believes that individuals who suspect they are working with a psychopath should also take steps to avoid becoming their next "victim."
"The most important thing is to be aware," he says. "Once you take that position you are in a better position to deal with them."
John Standring
"The most important thing is to be aware," he says. "Once you take that position you are in a better position to deal with them."
John Standring
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-12-02 18:38:02
Snakes in Suits is a compelling, frightening, and scientifically sound look at exactly how psychopaths work in the corporate environment: what kind of companies attract them, how they negotiate the hiring process, and how they function day by day. You'll learn how they apply their instinctive manipulation techniques-assessing potential targets, controlling influential victims, and abandoning those no longer useful-to business processes such as hiring, political command and control, and executive succession, all while hiding within the corporate culture. It's a must read for anyone in the business world, because whatever level you're at, you'll learn the subtle warning signs of psychopathic behaviour and be able to protect yourself and your company-before it's too late.
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-12-02 18:43:03
Funny how Ebay has Ahujas booK Listed with Snakes in Suits
Funny that!!! Lol the truth is out there.
Regards John Standring.
, Business Management, New, Used items at low prices on eBay.co.uk
Property Hotspots Around the World Find th | Ajay Ahuja, £8.99, +£1.99, 1h 51m ... Snakes in Suits When Psychopaths Go to Work Book, £8.99, +£1.99, 2h 49m ...
books.shop.ebay.co.uk/.../Business-Management__W0QQQ5ftrksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em282QQType28035aZQ21QQ
Funny that!!! Lol the truth is out there.
Regards John Standring.
, Business Management, New, Used items at low prices on eBay.co.uk
Property Hotspots Around the World Find th | Ajay Ahuja, £8.99, +£1.99, 1h 51m ... Snakes in Suits When Psychopaths Go to Work Book, £8.99, +£1.99, 2h 49m ...
books.shop.ebay.co.uk/.../Business-Management__W0QQQ5ftrksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em282QQType28035aZQ21QQ
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-03 11:46:49
i wonder if its worth doing another interview with ajay to see if he is able to defend his actions.
he is also yet to clarify exactly what his team of professionals do to justify the fee he charges.
ed
he is also yet to clarify exactly what his team of professionals do to justify the fee he charges.
ed
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-12-03 13:04:00
Hi ed, Like I have been saying he is a lying creep. Prob a money white collar psychophath.
DON'T FUK WITH MY MONEY (BIG MONEY HUSTLAS)
03:24 - 1 year ago youtube.com
A scene from Big Money Hustlas! youtube.com
Watch this video on youtube.com
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Lol J R Standring
DON'T FUK WITH MY MONEY (BIG MONEY HUSTLAS)
03:24 - 1 year ago youtube.com
A scene from Big Money Hustlas! youtube.com
Watch this video on youtube.com
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Watch video here
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-07 15:55:18
The latest word from mr ahuja.
£4m is a big number even by my standards! So why am I mentioning this number? Well it is the total approximate value of the properties we matched with out clients last month.
We did 55 properties last month which is a record for my team. It works out at around 3 properties a day. My target is 20 a day or 400 per month. So we are 15% of the way there.
The good thing is the property dealers are taking notice of us. It is nice when they start coming to you as previously we have had to go to them. I am hoping the tide has turned so that we are beating the dealers off as we have too many. But I must not get carried away.
I wonder if he will publish how many of these "deals" actually close?
Ed
£4m is a big number even by my standards! So why am I mentioning this number? Well it is the total approximate value of the properties we matched with out clients last month.
We did 55 properties last month which is a record for my team. It works out at around 3 properties a day. My target is 20 a day or 400 per month. So we are 15% of the way there.
The good thing is the property dealers are taking notice of us. It is nice when they start coming to you as previously we have had to go to them. I am hoping the tide has turned so that we are beating the dealers off as we have too many. But I must not get carried away.
I wonder if he will publish how many of these "deals" actually close?
Ed
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-08 14:29:55
you seem to have gone very quiet mr ahuja.
i see from your latest email that 55 souls have handed over a "sourcing fee" to you.
will you also publish how many deals complete?
or is that not good press for you?
Ed
i see from your latest email that 55 souls have handed over a "sourcing fee" to you.
will you also publish how many deals complete?
or is that not good press for you?
Ed
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ajay wrote this on 2009-12-08 14:36:41
around 60-70% complete. so around 30-40 I expect to complete based on history. The ones that fall out get replaced. Our fall out rate is a bit higher than norm but that is expected due to what we try to achieve with the financing and that some clients simply change their mind.
Hope that answers your questions!
Ajay
Hope that answers your questions!
Ajay
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-08 14:54:34
lol...based on those kind of figures, i am very surprised that none of your happy clients have been on here or any other website to defend you.
I am still waiting for a justification as to what your "team" does to justify your fees.
I remember seeing one of your marketing mails stating that it took less than 30 mins to produce a report.
What level of work is done to justify £3k?
Ed
I am still waiting for a justification as to what your "team" does to justify your fees.
I remember seeing one of your marketing mails stating that it took less than 30 mins to produce a report.
What level of work is done to justify £3k?
Ed
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-08 14:56:49
Also, if the deals get replaced, why do you still have clients taking you to court?
I see that you are promoting HMO's again.
Have any of them been passed to Miss Cope?
Ed
I see that you are promoting HMO's again.
Have any of them been passed to Miss Cope?
Ed
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ajay wrote this on 2009-12-08 15:17:43
£3k is to get the deal.
That is why people use us. We get the deals. Those who can get their own deals have no need for us!
£3k is not for the writing of a report. We do not sell reports, we sell deals!
We have had over 1,500 clients in our 5 year existence. You will always get unhappy clients even if you are the best run business in the world.
That is why people use us. We get the deals. Those who can get their own deals have no need for us!
£3k is not for the writing of a report. We do not sell reports, we sell deals!
We have had over 1,500 clients in our 5 year existence. You will always get unhappy clients even if you are the best run business in the world.
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John Standring wrote this on 2009-12-08 18:13:54
To all
To ed, Corinna Cope, twattybollocks, Anuj Gupta. How are you doing any news.
How are you doing with Ahuja.
I passed finance so payed for 17 deals. Finance changed, no deals, Ahuja no refund in two years. Fact. No deals stack up for me fact. I am expected to take anything. fact. But after waiting for months who would want to deal with Ahuja.
Things like no names policy. 3 weeks just to get the manager of your accounts name. Then they do not
know the deal I have with you.
When I met Ahuja he said I could have a copy of his working spreadsheet (his) I asked many times and nothing. How much would a copy spreadsheet cost Ahuja? Ahuja send it to me please you have 25k of mine, you have my email address. Thats a copy of your full working speradsheet or sheets. Inc formulas, you know what I mean. Asking your office does not get a result maybe they have not passed the message to you! But you get these messages dont you (Ahuja).
Could sorce for them, no reply. fact. Yes I could. No replies.
Just comenting from experience. Otherwise I would not belive it myself.
Lots more later. bin busy for a few days.
johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk 07973322589
To ed, Corinna Cope, twattybollocks, Anuj Gupta. How are you doing any news.
How are you doing with Ahuja.
I passed finance so payed for 17 deals. Finance changed, no deals, Ahuja no refund in two years. Fact. No deals stack up for me fact. I am expected to take anything. fact. But after waiting for months who would want to deal with Ahuja.
Things like no names policy. 3 weeks just to get the manager of your accounts name. Then they do not
know the deal I have with you.
When I met Ahuja he said I could have a copy of his working spreadsheet (his) I asked many times and nothing. How much would a copy spreadsheet cost Ahuja? Ahuja send it to me please you have 25k of mine, you have my email address. Thats a copy of your full working speradsheet or sheets. Inc formulas, you know what I mean. Asking your office does not get a result maybe they have not passed the message to you! But you get these messages dont you (Ahuja).
Could sorce for them, no reply. fact. Yes I could. No replies.
Just comenting from experience. Otherwise I would not belive it myself.
Lots more later. bin busy for a few days.
johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk 07973322589
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-08 20:41:13
Mr Ahuja,
What you consider to be a "deal" is not exactly accurate is it?
A deal suggests that all the work has been done beforehand ie the property has a confirmed survey, the finance is in place, the agent is aware of the fact that the property is being offered to a client..etc
I am guessing that there have been cases where you have taken a fee for a supposed deal that has already been taken by another sourcing company.
Do you give a refund in those cases where there is no "deal" to take advantage of or is it a case of once the client pays, you keep there money & promise them an alternative?
Not exactly the actions of "the best run company in the world".
Why do you never give refunds?
Ed
What you consider to be a "deal" is not exactly accurate is it?
A deal suggests that all the work has been done beforehand ie the property has a confirmed survey, the finance is in place, the agent is aware of the fact that the property is being offered to a client..etc
I am guessing that there have been cases where you have taken a fee for a supposed deal that has already been taken by another sourcing company.
Do you give a refund in those cases where there is no "deal" to take advantage of or is it a case of once the client pays, you keep there money & promise them an alternative?
Not exactly the actions of "the best run company in the world".
Why do you never give refunds?
Ed
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ed wrote this on 2009-12-18 22:44:40
Just had the latest up to date email from Mr Ahuja.
The Scotsman Article, they are reporting about me & my clients.
What he doesnt bother telling you is that the article was done a year & a half ago & he has sent the same old mail out time & time again.
Do you not have anything new to say ajay apart from you dont give refunds?
Ed
The Scotsman Article, they are reporting about me & my clients.
What he doesnt bother telling you is that the article was done a year & a half ago & he has sent the same old mail out time & time again.
Do you not have anything new to say ajay apart from you dont give refunds?
Ed
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I paid sourcing fees to Ajay too wrote this on 2010-01-04 20:05:48
... turned down one deal and ever since then can't get my (large) sourcing fee back or refunded. Or even a good deal - been asking and emailing for over a year and AA doesn't answer except to say there are no refunds! His staff actually apologise for him on the phone and say things like, please just keep applying for a refund on the website, I'm so sorry.
I can't understand it. I met him on one of his roadshows - I was so happy to meet him after reading his buy to let books and reading his columns. He was a proper role model for me, and I still can't quite believe what he seems to be doing. I still really hope I'm wrong. He seems like such a decent guy when you meet him. But if he is, then why wouldn't he offer you new deals when you've paid a hefty sourcing fee? We're not ALL difficult/ liars/ fantasists/ stupid?!!! Surely it's just black and white wrong to take money under false pretences?
I can't understand it. I met him on one of his roadshows - I was so happy to meet him after reading his buy to let books and reading his columns. He was a proper role model for me, and I still can't quite believe what he seems to be doing. I still really hope I'm wrong. He seems like such a decent guy when you meet him. But if he is, then why wouldn't he offer you new deals when you've paid a hefty sourcing fee? We're not ALL difficult/ liars/ fantasists/ stupid?!!! Surely it's just black and white wrong to take money under false pretences?
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ed wrote this on 2010-01-04 22:24:12
a very simple answer is that if he has a good deal, he is not going to give it to someone who has already lost there money to him.
he will want to get a new client for new money.
ed
he will want to get a new client for new money.
ed
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accountant wrote this on 2010-01-07 13:59:16
I heard Ajay was also removed as an accountant from the official accountants body !
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-07 15:09:37
But does this stop him from owning a accounting company.
Does he own an internet accounting company. Where is it?
He wouldent want to do accountancy anyway as you have to earn your money. (Work) He has found an easer much less regulated way. Take fees do nothing. Maybe pay back 1% that he is forced to do a couple of years later.
Look at this an example of Ahujas excuses for not refunding
from a solisitor, "You will see that Ahuja has applied to the Court for summary judgment (i.e. for judgment in his favour) on the basis that (a) your case has no merit since the fees [paid to Ahuja] were non-refundable and since you have failed to comply with the Court’s directions."
Lol not compyed with the courts instructions, NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM NOT COMPLEATING ANY OF MY DEALS AND REFUSING TO REFUND 25k + WASTED PRO FEES, + TIME. AFTER 2.5 YEARS COSTS, + HASSEL.
If this isent fraud I dont know what is.
Of course he pays up if he looses his case in court, NO HE DOES NOT HE JUST LAUGHS AT EVERY ONE. He ignors judgments etc.
Keep well away from this man and Company.
If you get a judgment against him and you go with the balif to collect, he phones the police and says its not fair. They look at the paperwork and say it is that is the truth of the matter, I know I have first hand experience of Ahuja + you can see his intent to pay on TV BBC Insideout London.
John Standring
Does he own an internet accounting company. Where is it?
He wouldent want to do accountancy anyway as you have to earn your money. (Work) He has found an easer much less regulated way. Take fees do nothing. Maybe pay back 1% that he is forced to do a couple of years later.
Look at this an example of Ahujas excuses for not refunding
from a solisitor, "You will see that Ahuja has applied to the Court for summary judgment (i.e. for judgment in his favour) on the basis that (a) your case has no merit since the fees [paid to Ahuja] were non-refundable and since you have failed to comply with the Court’s directions."
Lol not compyed with the courts instructions, NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM NOT COMPLEATING ANY OF MY DEALS AND REFUSING TO REFUND 25k + WASTED PRO FEES, + TIME. AFTER 2.5 YEARS COSTS, + HASSEL.
If this isent fraud I dont know what is.
Of course he pays up if he looses his case in court, NO HE DOES NOT HE JUST LAUGHS AT EVERY ONE. He ignors judgments etc.
Keep well away from this man and Company.
If you get a judgment against him and you go with the balif to collect, he phones the police and says its not fair. They look at the paperwork and say it is that is the truth of the matter, I know I have first hand experience of Ahuja + you can see his intent to pay on TV BBC Insideout London.
John Standring
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-07 15:48:03
He just does not refund. any problem you loose your money. End of.
His excuses are rubbish. he is a crook. His subcontract staff know he is a crook. Does he employ anyone?
He uses a company called
Need more Time,
thats who you are calling when you phone the Ahuja Group, would anyone like to know about the company Need More Time.
I have been talking to one of there exstaff.
A judgment is not enough for him to pay up you have to go to his home and drag it out of him with a TV crew and High Court Balifs, with the police watching. So tell me how can the avarage man or woman on the street get there money back if he does not deliver on his promices. You know what I meen a fair claim They carnt!!
The Lady he would not refund with a judgment against him is a single working mother who lives hundreds of miles from Ahuja and had given up hope. This is why he does not refund because is hard to get your money back if you dont know how the system works. A numbers game. A bezar twist on the oppertunity cost of money. That he uses agains his members.
So please mr police man and Crown Prosicution Service, County Courts, bring this man to Justice and make him payup, then put him in jail because he is a financial death sentance to lots of people.
It is the perfect definition of FRAUD. Money in nothing of any value out.
This is the truth of the matter not what he says in the interview above.
Res non verba, Actions not words
His intent to be responsible with your money is nill.
His after sales service is nill ahd reckless.
John Standring
His excuses are rubbish. he is a crook. His subcontract staff know he is a crook. Does he employ anyone?
He uses a company called
Need more Time,
thats who you are calling when you phone the Ahuja Group, would anyone like to know about the company Need More Time.
I have been talking to one of there exstaff.
A judgment is not enough for him to pay up you have to go to his home and drag it out of him with a TV crew and High Court Balifs, with the police watching. So tell me how can the avarage man or woman on the street get there money back if he does not deliver on his promices. You know what I meen a fair claim They carnt!!
The Lady he would not refund with a judgment against him is a single working mother who lives hundreds of miles from Ahuja and had given up hope. This is why he does not refund because is hard to get your money back if you dont know how the system works. A numbers game. A bezar twist on the oppertunity cost of money. That he uses agains his members.
So please mr police man and Crown Prosicution Service, County Courts, bring this man to Justice and make him payup, then put him in jail because he is a financial death sentance to lots of people.
It is the perfect definition of FRAUD. Money in nothing of any value out.
This is the truth of the matter not what he says in the interview above.
Res non verba, Actions not words
His intent to be responsible with your money is nill.
His after sales service is nill ahd reckless.
John Standring
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-07 16:04:01
I paid sourcing fees to Ajay too wrote this on 2010-01-04 20:05:48
Blog 126
Hi got lots of info for you. Call me on 07973322589
What does he owe you, what has happend to you?
My email is johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
Could help you with a money claim etc. Let me save you 2 years waiting.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
Blog 126
Hi got lots of info for you. Call me on 07973322589
What does he owe you, what has happend to you?
My email is johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
Could help you with a money claim etc. Let me save you 2 years waiting.
Regards John Standring 07973322589
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 00:38:12
Some reviews about Ahujas Book on how to make a fortune on the Internet.
I think I will write a book that has multiple links to my own website, which remarkably contains affiliates, links to other products, etc. Oh, and here it is and I bought it. Have I been fooled? I feel that I have been. Okay, some of the advice is sound, and quite sensible, but is it morally okay to plug your own interests constantly? I'd be embarrassed, but Ajay obviously isn't. In future I will be very wary about handing over cash for any book, I've been sucked into the 'make money without hard work by ripping people off over the internet' culture. And I don't like it. Comment Comment | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)
Such a scammer.
I think I will write a book that has multiple links to my own website, which remarkably contains affiliates, links to other products, etc. Oh, and here it is and I bought it. Have I been fooled? I feel that I have been. Okay, some of the advice is sound, and quite sensible, but is it morally okay to plug your own interests constantly? I'd be embarrassed, but Ajay obviously isn't. In future I will be very wary about handing over cash for any book, I've been sucked into the 'make money without hard work by ripping people off over the internet' culture. And I don't like it. Comment Comment | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)
Such a scammer.
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 08:24:46
Will someone put this stuff on singing pig + Landlordzone.
new web site called Action Fraud, may be intrested in your cases. Please pass this new site on to others.
John
new web site called Action Fraud, may be intrested in your cases. Please pass this new site on to others.
John
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 08:39:31
After realising that there was no way out, Ahuja agreed to hand over around £10,000 to refund two of his clients Dawn Lawrence and Judith James, plus an extra £3,000 in costs.
Watch the episode here on iplayer
Watch the episode here on iplayer
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 09:52:18
Have you seen the web site action fraud which reports directly to the police. They will also give you a crime number so seem to be taking it seriously. The police have been in touch with me 3 times. They are starting to investigate Ahuja. Great stuff.
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 10:21:34
Silent Fraud
Silent fraud occurs when a defendant fails to disclose material facts. To establish this, plaintiff has the burden of proving each of the following elements by clear and convincing evidence:
•The defendant failed to disclose one or more material facts about the subject matter of the claim;
•The defendant had actual knowledge of the fact(s);
•The defendant’s failure to disclose the fact(s) caused the plaintiff to have a false impression;
•When the defendant failed to disclose the fact(s), the defendant knew the failure would create a false impression;
•When defendant failed to disclose the fact(s), defendant intended that plaintiff rely on the resulting false impression;
•The plaintiff relied on the false impression; and
•The plaintiff was damaged as a result of the reliance upon the false impression.
Silent fraud occurs when a defendant fails to disclose material facts. To establish this, plaintiff has the burden of proving each of the following elements by clear and convincing evidence:
•The defendant failed to disclose one or more material facts about the subject matter of the claim;
•The defendant had actual knowledge of the fact(s);
•The defendant’s failure to disclose the fact(s) caused the plaintiff to have a false impression;
•When the defendant failed to disclose the fact(s), the defendant knew the failure would create a false impression;
•When defendant failed to disclose the fact(s), defendant intended that plaintiff rely on the resulting false impression;
•The plaintiff relied on the false impression; and
•The plaintiff was damaged as a result of the reliance upon the false impression.
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 10:32:17
National Fraud Authority chief executive Dr Bernard Herdan says: "Fraud can be devastating to a victim, especially the most vulnerable in society.
"It can leave a person without any savings and completely destroy a person's livelihood.
"So I welcome the vital insight this series of reports have given us into the experiences of fraud victims.
"I am totally committed to improving the support they receive, starting with the launch of Action Fraud - the national fraud reporting centre."
The authority was formed last year as a partnership between public organisations such as the police, private ones including banks and help groups such as Victim Support.
It is part of the department of the Attorney General, Baroness Scotland, who says: "What victims most want is to understand what fraud they have suffered, where they can report it and what steps they need to take to reduce the likelihood of becoming victims again.
"Providing this will help reduce the repeat victimisation that fraudsters are getting away with all too often."
Having one point of contact strikes us as an excellent idea. Until now, the range of organisations involved in fighting fraud has led to massive confusion.
Only recently a reader asked us if she should report her situation to "The Department for Fair Trading Standards", creating one non-existent group out of three real organisations.
So we'll end on a festive note by wishing Action Fraud all the best - here's hoping it can help make life hell for conmen in 2010.
"It can leave a person without any savings and completely destroy a person's livelihood.
"So I welcome the vital insight this series of reports have given us into the experiences of fraud victims.
"I am totally committed to improving the support they receive, starting with the launch of Action Fraud - the national fraud reporting centre."
The authority was formed last year as a partnership between public organisations such as the police, private ones including banks and help groups such as Victim Support.
It is part of the department of the Attorney General, Baroness Scotland, who says: "What victims most want is to understand what fraud they have suffered, where they can report it and what steps they need to take to reduce the likelihood of becoming victims again.
"Providing this will help reduce the repeat victimisation that fraudsters are getting away with all too often."
Having one point of contact strikes us as an excellent idea. Until now, the range of organisations involved in fighting fraud has led to massive confusion.
Only recently a reader asked us if she should report her situation to "The Department for Fair Trading Standards", creating one non-existent group out of three real organisations.
So we'll end on a festive note by wishing Action Fraud all the best - here's hoping it can help make life hell for conmen in 2010.
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 11:43:30
Buy-to-Let Property Hotspots: Where to buy property and how to let it for profit (Paperback)
by Ajay Ahuja (Author), Nick Rampley-Sturgeon (Author)
2 Peas in a Pod, Now you know who Ahuja gets his investment model from.
Ban for fishy Rampley-Sturgeon of Activation Enterprise
By Andrew Penman on September 9, 2009 11:55 PM | No Comments
This smug git is the author of Buying To Rent, "an enthralling read that details his experiences of investment property".
Nick Rampley-Sturgeon also wrote Small Business, Big Profit! And now we know where the profit came from.
The 46-year-old from Ilkley, West Yorks, has just been banned from being a company director after trousering property deposits paid for by victims of his Activation Enterprise Ltd and Activation Coventry Ltd.
by Ajay Ahuja (Author), Nick Rampley-Sturgeon (Author)
2 Peas in a Pod, Now you know who Ahuja gets his investment model from.
Ban for fishy Rampley-Sturgeon of Activation Enterprise
By Andrew Penman on September 9, 2009 11:55 PM | No Comments
This smug git is the author of Buying To Rent, "an enthralling read that details his experiences of investment property".
Nick Rampley-Sturgeon also wrote Small Business, Big Profit! And now we know where the profit came from.
The 46-year-old from Ilkley, West Yorks, has just been banned from being a company director after trousering property deposits paid for by victims of his Activation Enterprise Ltd and Activation Coventry Ltd.
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-12 12:01:47
Now I'd like to take Ahuja on with a class action representing all the victims," "But we need a firm of solicitors who will act for us without charge because it's in the public interest."
Any lawyers fancy helping? We'll love you forever if you do.
John Standring 07973322589
Its gone quiet are you all snowed in. Internet still works. Any comements, anyone contacted Fraud Action. Lets geta Class Action Against Ahuja.
Any lawyers fancy helping? We'll love you forever if you do.
John Standring 07973322589
Its gone quiet are you all snowed in. Internet still works. Any comements, anyone contacted Fraud Action. Lets geta Class Action Against Ahuja.
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Samlir wrote this on 2010-01-13 18:28:59
HI Guys
I'm another one of his victmis!!!
I've tried to get £5310 back from 2 property deals that didn't stack up.Any information on how to sue this gut would be grately appreciated
Sam
I'm another one of his victmis!!!
I've tried to get £5310 back from 2 property deals that didn't stack up.Any information on how to sue this gut would be grately appreciated
Sam
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-13 20:26:38
Hi Sam
Call me anytime got loads of info.
What area are you from?
My Email address is johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
Regards john 07973322589
Call me anytime got loads of info.
What area are you from?
My Email address is johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co.uk
Regards john 07973322589
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-14 08:53:33
Fraud by abuse of position
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) occupies a position in which he is expected to safeguard, or not to act against, the financial interests of another person, (surveyor)
(b) dishonestly abuses that position, and (Use an innovative scheme which ensures the value you put on a property you desire is backed up by the surveyor when they actually go and visit and value the property. This is a totally unique service which very few people know about.)
(c) intends, by means of the abuse of that position—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (payment for themselves, deal for Alluga group, and no money deal down for customer)
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (exposure of risk to the lender)
(2) A person may be regarded as having abused his position even though his conduct consisted of an omission rather than an act.
The page is clearly highlighting a criminal act
I always knew this dodgepot was a crook.
Yeah I know. But in this case he is clearly advertising criminal activities for members of the public to join in with him. He doesn't disclose the fraud to them but people should be made aware. I'll most likely latter carefully go through the web page and flag it up to the FSA.
Although ive not had any dealings with Ajay Ahuja, in my opinion its pretty plain to see that he is a master conman. Hes good, ile give him that!
What he doesnt tell you is that your are taxed beyond belief in USA, garbage tax, water tax, air tax, tax on tax...etc which eats in to your net yeild like crazy. Bottom line is that for £20K you will pick up what looks to be a decent property in a complete sh1thole of an area. You'le need to to get the roof replaced that year as most of the cheap properties need a new roof due to the snow dumps they get out there. Buffalo is beside lake erie, massive snow lake effect.
youle also struggle to find a decent property manager apparently, and i doubt rents will come flowing in from boyz in the hood. I have spoken to quiet a few people out there about the market and once you get someone honest you soon realise its not so great.
Also the capital appreciation is fekin terrible out there, and has been for some time and probably still will be . Buffalo is rough!
Well, he obviously finds it easier to make a few grand each time he sells one of these sh1t tips to his herd of loyal sheep that he has been grooming for years. I read in one thread that he is now selling his own 150 property portfolio back to the mugs that helped him finance them in the first place.....actually I almost admire him.
"nobody gives away gold mines"
LandlordZone.
Voodrig
BMV investment via Ahuja Group
In April this year, I paid £350 deposit to register with Ahuja Group's BMV property finding service. They claim to find and offer BMV deals to clients, and the sourcing fee depends on the BMV %age - the higher the discount, the greater the sourcing fee.
I was offered 2 properties, neither of which met my criteria, but have had nothing since early June. I have sent numerous emails, made numerous phone calls, and completed an online refund request, but still haven't had my money back. In fact, none of my calls or emails have received any response.
Has any one else had a similar experience with tthem or any bother property finding service? I'm resigned to losing the £350, not a big deal, But I just hate paying for something I don't get. My opinion would be to give Ahuja group a wide berth.
________________________________________
Why should you pay someone for poor performance ? If I were you, I would seek a full refund. I'd rather the give the money to a charity or a poor family instead.
Prop9
I have had a bad experience with Ahuja and would never use them again
Jax2503
Ajay ahuja, well where to start. There is several ways to attempt to get your monies back. You can serve court proceedings on him via moneyclaim online or get under his nose and make him pay you just to get rid of you. Thats what I done. I complained to The Institute of Chartered Accountants in England & Wales for his professional ethics or lack of them. They started to look into the matter and I received my reservation fee back within 10days of £3500. I think he just wanted to see the back of me!
Jax
BBPearl
I had an email from someone wanting to purchase a property that we are dealing with. It seemed that what they were doing was apparently fradulant. They were asking us to increase the asking price of this property and they would offer the full (increased) asking price but the vendor would not see a benifit of this increase and infact take a £23,000 reduction. This £23,000 deficit is there to pay the companies 'finders fee' and their solicitors fees.
Seemed a bit odd. They suggested a name of the person that would be dealing with the legal side of the purchase for their client who they are sourcing the property for but a quick check on companies house shows that the company of solicitors was not in the best of shapes.
I havent had much to do with BMV purchases but is this normal practice?
Jeffrey
No- and you might want to ask your own solicitors to report it as attempted Money Laundering or cognate attempted Fraud.
Tazza
Ahuja Non Payment of Refund
I am going to have to go to court for my £2k up front fees from Ahuja too, I gave them until 31 Jan to get cleared funds into my account after arguing since last October.
I also note he is an Institute of Chartered Accountants member, thanks for that info, really useful, so am I. I'll give them a ring and complain as well.
Hi Jax, thanks for the hints and tips, do you have the details of the name and address, co number etc. of the entity that you issued the legal claim against for Ahuja, or was it Ahuja himself?
I can track it down, but its painful enough as it is, as I don't do this sort of thing normally, any details you already have available would be a great help indeed.
Thx in anticipation.
Companies House info (office hours only) is on 0870- 333 3636. This is probably the most helpful telephone service of all HMG Departments.
The information and the service you provide is first class. ... If you do not recieve the password, please contact us and we will resolve your query. ... Each property is chosen by the property guru Ajay Ahuja who is a proven success in ...
Nothing is further from the truth.
As a footnote...a couple of years ago, I travelled from Saudi Arabia (where I live) to the Essex home of Ajay Ahuja just to spend 60 minutes in his company (a privilege for which I happily paid up front). It was certainly an interesting conversation - but the really interesting thing was that I left his home without being offered so much as a single glass of water - isn't it a shame when we are so blinded by money making that we forget the basics of human interaction?
Hi,
has anyone actually used Ajay's services?
I am in a position where I have given his company some sourcing fees. (a long time ago. I did not bother to get the money back when the deal was not sourced as I was waiting for a pick up in the market)
His company will not provide me with any customers that indorse their services. They also say that you must commit to a deal even before being given as much as a post code in order to do due diligence.
I struggle to see how I can commit to a deal without sufficient detail.
I would appreciate some input.. Good or bad..
Thanks!
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) occupies a position in which he is expected to safeguard, or not to act against, the financial interests of another person, (surveyor)
(b) dishonestly abuses that position, and (Use an innovative scheme which ensures the value you put on a property you desire is backed up by the surveyor when they actually go and visit and value the property. This is a totally unique service which very few people know about.)
(c) intends, by means of the abuse of that position—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (payment for themselves, deal for Alluga group, and no money deal down for customer)
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (exposure of risk to the lender)
(2) A person may be regarded as having abused his position even though his conduct consisted of an omission rather than an act.
The page is clearly highlighting a criminal act
I always knew this dodgepot was a crook.
Yeah I know. But in this case he is clearly advertising criminal activities for members of the public to join in with him. He doesn't disclose the fraud to them but people should be made aware. I'll most likely latter carefully go through the web page and flag it up to the FSA.
Although ive not had any dealings with Ajay Ahuja, in my opinion its pretty plain to see that he is a master conman. Hes good, ile give him that!
What he doesnt tell you is that your are taxed beyond belief in USA, garbage tax, water tax, air tax, tax on tax...etc which eats in to your net yeild like crazy. Bottom line is that for £20K you will pick up what looks to be a decent property in a complete sh1thole of an area. You'le need to to get the roof replaced that year as most of the cheap properties need a new roof due to the snow dumps they get out there. Buffalo is beside lake erie, massive snow lake effect.
youle also struggle to find a decent property manager apparently, and i doubt rents will come flowing in from boyz in the hood. I have spoken to quiet a few people out there about the market and once you get someone honest you soon realise its not so great.
Also the capital appreciation is fekin terrible out there, and has been for some time and probably still will be . Buffalo is rough!
Well, he obviously finds it easier to make a few grand each time he sells one of these sh1t tips to his herd of loyal sheep that he has been grooming for years. I read in one thread that he is now selling his own 150 property portfolio back to the mugs that helped him finance them in the first place.....actually I almost admire him.
"nobody gives away gold mines"
LandlordZone.
Voodrig
BMV investment via Ahuja Group
In April this year, I paid £350 deposit to register with Ahuja Group's BMV property finding service. They claim to find and offer BMV deals to clients, and the sourcing fee depends on the BMV %age - the higher the discount, the greater the sourcing fee.
I was offered 2 properties, neither of which met my criteria, but have had nothing since early June. I have sent numerous emails, made numerous phone calls, and completed an online refund request, but still haven't had my money back. In fact, none of my calls or emails have received any response.
Has any one else had a similar experience with tthem or any bother property finding service? I'm resigned to losing the £350, not a big deal, But I just hate paying for something I don't get. My opinion would be to give Ahuja group a wide berth.
________________________________________
Why should you pay someone for poor performance ? If I were you, I would seek a full refund. I'd rather the give the money to a charity or a poor family instead.
Prop9
I have had a bad experience with Ahuja and would never use them again
Jax2503
Ajay ahuja, well where to start. There is several ways to attempt to get your monies back. You can serve court proceedings on him via moneyclaim online or get under his nose and make him pay you just to get rid of you. Thats what I done. I complained to The Institute of Chartered Accountants in England & Wales for his professional ethics or lack of them. They started to look into the matter and I received my reservation fee back within 10days of £3500. I think he just wanted to see the back of me!
Jax
BBPearl
I had an email from someone wanting to purchase a property that we are dealing with. It seemed that what they were doing was apparently fradulant. They were asking us to increase the asking price of this property and they would offer the full (increased) asking price but the vendor would not see a benifit of this increase and infact take a £23,000 reduction. This £23,000 deficit is there to pay the companies 'finders fee' and their solicitors fees.
Seemed a bit odd. They suggested a name of the person that would be dealing with the legal side of the purchase for their client who they are sourcing the property for but a quick check on companies house shows that the company of solicitors was not in the best of shapes.
I havent had much to do with BMV purchases but is this normal practice?
Jeffrey
No- and you might want to ask your own solicitors to report it as attempted Money Laundering or cognate attempted Fraud.
Tazza
Ahuja Non Payment of Refund
I am going to have to go to court for my £2k up front fees from Ahuja too, I gave them until 31 Jan to get cleared funds into my account after arguing since last October.
I also note he is an Institute of Chartered Accountants member, thanks for that info, really useful, so am I. I'll give them a ring and complain as well.
Hi Jax, thanks for the hints and tips, do you have the details of the name and address, co number etc. of the entity that you issued the legal claim against for Ahuja, or was it Ahuja himself?
I can track it down, but its painful enough as it is, as I don't do this sort of thing normally, any details you already have available would be a great help indeed.
Thx in anticipation.
Companies House info (office hours only) is on 0870- 333 3636. This is probably the most helpful telephone service of all HMG Departments.
The information and the service you provide is first class. ... If you do not recieve the password, please contact us and we will resolve your query. ... Each property is chosen by the property guru Ajay Ahuja who is a proven success in ...
Nothing is further from the truth.
As a footnote...a couple of years ago, I travelled from Saudi Arabia (where I live) to the Essex home of Ajay Ahuja just to spend 60 minutes in his company (a privilege for which I happily paid up front). It was certainly an interesting conversation - but the really interesting thing was that I left his home without being offered so much as a single glass of water - isn't it a shame when we are so blinded by money making that we forget the basics of human interaction?
Hi,
has anyone actually used Ajay's services?
I am in a position where I have given his company some sourcing fees. (a long time ago. I did not bother to get the money back when the deal was not sourced as I was waiting for a pick up in the market)
His company will not provide me with any customers that indorse their services. They also say that you must commit to a deal even before being given as much as a post code in order to do due diligence.
I struggle to see how I can commit to a deal without sufficient detail.
I would appreciate some input.. Good or bad..
Thanks!
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-14 13:17:37
Ajay has been saying his sister is a jornolist for the Times.
From The Times March 12, 2009
Warning:
capitalism can damage your health
by Anjana Ahuja
Lol Yes it can if you deal with Ajay Ahuja
From The Times March 12, 2009
Warning:
capitalism can damage your health
by Anjana Ahuja
Lol Yes it can if you deal with Ajay Ahuja
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-14 13:21:34
Anjana Ahuja
Feature Writer, The Times
Anjana Ahuja has been a feature writer on The Times for nine years, reporting and commenting on science, medicine and social affairs. She sits on the Science in Society Committee at the Royal Society, and the editorial committee of the BA magazine. She has written for magazines, including Science in Parliament and Elle. She holds a PhD in physics from Imperial College and was a judge in the Science Book Prize in 2001.
A space physicist graduate from Imperial College London, she edits the science page of the newspaper and is called upon to write on topics as diverse as genetics, cloning, alcoholism, the origins of man, the Internet, space travel, parenting and bio-terrorism. From 1998-2002 she organised a series of Times' Science Lectures with the Royal Institute, designed to highlight junior researchers capable of becoming stars in their own field. Many are now professors and outstanding public communicators of science. Anjana serves on two committees that aim to improve science communication with the public - the Royal Society and the British Association for the Advancement of Science. She has also been a judge for the Science Book Prize, and has herself been shortlisted twice for Best Feature Writer in the National Science Writing Awards.
Feature Writer, The Times
Anjana Ahuja has been a feature writer on The Times for nine years, reporting and commenting on science, medicine and social affairs. She sits on the Science in Society Committee at the Royal Society, and the editorial committee of the BA magazine. She has written for magazines, including Science in Parliament and Elle. She holds a PhD in physics from Imperial College and was a judge in the Science Book Prize in 2001.
A space physicist graduate from Imperial College London, she edits the science page of the newspaper and is called upon to write on topics as diverse as genetics, cloning, alcoholism, the origins of man, the Internet, space travel, parenting and bio-terrorism. From 1998-2002 she organised a series of Times' Science Lectures with the Royal Institute, designed to highlight junior researchers capable of becoming stars in their own field. Many are now professors and outstanding public communicators of science. Anjana serves on two committees that aim to improve science communication with the public - the Royal Society and the British Association for the Advancement of Science. She has also been a judge for the Science Book Prize, and has herself been shortlisted twice for Best Feature Writer in the National Science Writing Awards.
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Jimbo wrote this on 2010-01-25 16:05:25
Hi John
I found your email on another thread but I haven't been able to get it to work.
I've also been stiffed by Ajay so looked to the internet for help and found all his dirt. I've only just seen the BBC thing.
I've left a message for Paul at Landlord action but he hasn't got back to me yet.
I'm just looking for some guidance because I'm up for a fight and sympathise with everyone else.
Any advice is helpful
Cheers
Jim
I found your email on another thread but I haven't been able to get it to work.
I've also been stiffed by Ajay so looked to the internet for help and found all his dirt. I've only just seen the BBC thing.
I've left a message for Paul at Landlord action but he hasn't got back to me yet.
I'm just looking for some guidance because I'm up for a fight and sympathise with everyone else.
Any advice is helpful
Cheers
Jim
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CC wrote this on 2010-01-26 09:12:40
Jim
Please contact me at the following address:
email at corinna-cope dot com
and I may be able help you with your claim against Ahuja.
Regards - Corinna
Please contact me at the following address:
email at corinna-cope dot com
and I may be able help you with your claim against Ahuja.
Regards - Corinna
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-01-26 17:47:35
Hi Jim bin out today
johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co,uk
or 07973322589 anytime.
John
johnrichardstandring@yahoo.co,uk
or 07973322589 anytime.
John
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Mark Barrow wrote this on 2010-02-02 15:29:53
Has anyone managed to get hold of Ajay Ahuja's home address?
Please email me at mabttp@hotmail.com
Many thanks,
mark
Please email me at mabttp@hotmail.com
Many thanks,
mark
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Tariq Adams wrote this on 2010-02-05 18:31:33
It's taken AGES to get to the bottom of this email, and what worthy reading it has been....
A Viewpoint: Ajay is in the wrong, for screwing people over.
Victims: Your in the wrong for trusting it was a good thing without considering the possibility of the deal going WEST.
At fault: Your both as bad as each other.
I invest personally in property that i find, and that i have sourced to me for a fee, none of it has EVER been pay up front, and there have been some amazing deals, so why would you even bother to try to trade on the dark side....
Thanks
T
A Viewpoint: Ajay is in the wrong, for screwing people over.
Victims: Your in the wrong for trusting it was a good thing without considering the possibility of the deal going WEST.
At fault: Your both as bad as each other.
I invest personally in property that i find, and that i have sourced to me for a fee, none of it has EVER been pay up front, and there have been some amazing deals, so why would you even bother to try to trade on the dark side....
Thanks
T
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The Cho wrote this on 2010-02-15 17:21:56
I am a newbie at property investing. I have spent the best part of 2hours reading these threads. Beats working on a dreary monday.
I am on The Ahuja Group client list. I have thus far purchased one deal. The first deal that i commited to was drastically down valued and i was expensed with the survey fee. The ahuja group fee was kept on account, and they found me a deal in about 6 weeks. The property was down valued, but the 3rd party sourcer managed to keep the deal alive. I didn't here much from the Ahuja untill the deal exchanged.
Maybe i was lucky... Everytime i called the office i managed to speak to someone or get a call back.
I do agree that it is impossible to do any due diligence before you commit to the deal, and this is unreasonable and frustrating.
I hope you guys find a decent resolution.
well thats my 2 pennies in the pissing pot! :-)
I am on The Ahuja Group client list. I have thus far purchased one deal. The first deal that i commited to was drastically down valued and i was expensed with the survey fee. The ahuja group fee was kept on account, and they found me a deal in about 6 weeks. The property was down valued, but the 3rd party sourcer managed to keep the deal alive. I didn't here much from the Ahuja untill the deal exchanged.
Maybe i was lucky... Everytime i called the office i managed to speak to someone or get a call back.
I do agree that it is impossible to do any due diligence before you commit to the deal, and this is unreasonable and frustrating.
I hope you guys find a decent resolution.
well thats my 2 pennies in the pissing pot! :-)
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Paul wrote this on 2010-02-25 11:57:15
is this all real though?
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John Standring wrote this on 2010-03-03 17:40:07
NITINBABU VRAJLAL wrote this on 2010-03-03 16:25:45
Hi,
I am a victim of AJAY AHUJA.
Waiting for court decision regarding my money claim.
please be warned this: He is big fraud please don't hand him you hard earned cash as i did (stupid of me!)and i am now crying running after him and he is enjoying life with my money and of other innocent peoples, but i trust in GOD and unfortunately he is also a son of GOD!!! but he will have to pay!!!!i would like to get him face to face to say something to stop him doing these to other peoples but i am doing this to warn all peoples to be carefull.
thanks 15
Hi,
I am a victim of AJAY AHUJA.
Waiting for court decision regarding my money claim.
please be warned this: He is big fraud please don't hand him you hard earned cash as i did (stupid of me!)and i am now crying running after him and he is enjoying life with my money and of other innocent peoples, but i trust in GOD and unfortunately he is also a son of GOD!!! but he will have to pay!!!!i would like to get him face to face to say something to stop him doing these to other peoples but i am doing this to warn all peoples to be carefull.
thanks 15
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