15 Reasons Why Estate Agents Are Idiots

Jesus, you're an idiot

It can’t just be a coincidence or a conspiracy, can it? There’s definitely a reason why so many of us fantasise about the demise of estate agents.

I recently read the results of a national survey, which listed estate agents as one of the most hated people among society, sitting comfortably below ticket inspectors. I can’t clarify how reliable the source was, but it sounded about right.

I could probably sit here all day and night compiling a list longer than my… for why we all hate estate agents. And I bet you could too. Besides from the fact the majority of them are snake-oil parasites providing below average services for extortionate rates, I can also think of some other compelling reasons to loathe them…

1] No qualifications required

There’s no real science or mystical theory to why the majority of Estate Agents are spineless, mentally challenged turds. In fact, it’s quite simple- you don’t need a license or go through a training programme to become an Estate Agent, so any old fool off the street without qualifications or experience can set up shop as an Estate Agent (which is often the case). That explains a lot already, doesn’t it?

In fact, I’m convinced the only prerequisite an Estate Agent is required to have is the means to access a polyester suit and a can of Lynx.

2] Limited consumer protection

Estate Agents are protected from their own stupidity, because it’s not a hugely regulated industry.

It’s extremely difficult to claim anything against Estate Agents, unless they do something blatantly illegal. It’s amazing how British consumers have more rights when buying a tin of baked beans when compared to spending tens of thousands of pounds on bricks and mortar.

3] The Wanker Mobile

Need I say more?

Estate Agent Car

4] “This property is extremely popular”

Needless to say, Estate agents aren’t short of a trick or two. One of their favourite being, arranging two viewings to “accidentally” coincide, so the property appears to be in demand. Alternatively, the agent may often get someone from the office to ring while taking a viewing and pretend that someone has just put an offer in.

Buyer beware, idiot with a semi-functioning brain in operation.

5] That house is perfect for you, sir!

Ever seen an estate agent discourage you from a buy simply because it’s not suitable? Me neither. They’ll lie through their teeth in order to encourage a sale, even if they’re trying to flog a pile of shit.

Example:

Hey Mr Estate Agent, is that barn an appropriate living environment for my wife and my newly born child?

Well, let me see; according to my calculations, I get 1.5% of the sale price. So if I worked this out correctly- then YES, it’s a perfect living environment for you and your family

Stupid Landlord Comic

6] The Estate Agents perfect deal

Estate Agents don’t try and get you the best deals; they try and get themselves the best deals. It’s all about the commission. Regardless of whether you’re a buyer or seller, they have tactical methods of trying to exploit anyone at either end of the chain.

If you’re a buyer, the Estate Agent may try and make you pay as much as possible for a property, so their commission is maximized. If you’re a seller, an Estate Agent may try to under value your property, and then quickly buy the property via a “friend” Sounds far-fetched, right? Happens all the damn time.

7] Different planet

They each live on a different planet, and naturally, they rule all.

Typical Estate Agent Comic

8] Time-wasters

Estate Agents love taking it upon themselves to show prospective buyers properties that are completely out of scope from their initial requirements. Why do they do that? It’s usually when they don’t have enough properties in their books that match the brief, so instead of fessing up and saying, “Sorry, we don’t have any properties that match your criteria”, they take their prospects on a bullshit wild goose chase.

Here’s an all-time classic clip from Gavin and Stacy of a stereotypical Estate Agent that’s a total time-waster. It’s funny because it’s true.

9] Money-grabbing buffoons

The nutritious problem with any competitive commission based job (but especially in this industry), is that the positions get filled with a particular type of idiot; greasy, ruthless and willing to kill for the next buck. They either come that way or eventually get conditioned by the system.

It’s truly a sad state of affairs.

I’d fancy my chances at finding a unicorn before finding an agent that looks after my best interest before their own transparent agenda.

money hungry estate agent

10] They hate their own kind

‘Black on Black’ crime was actually inspired by ‘Estate Agent on Estate Agent’ crime.

What chance do we as consumers have if they hate their own kind? I’m not just talking about feuds between rival companies; I’m also talking about in-house war. They backstab each other by taking each others leads. Other peoples’ misery is generally their gain.

11] Flyboarding

Do you often seen those hideous “for sale” and “for let” signs everywhere and think, “How can there be so many houses for sale/for let?”? The reality is, half of them aren’t available, and that’s what is known as “flyboarding”

Estate agents leave those hideous, out-dated signs up as a means of cheap advertising. “Cheap” being the operative word.

False advertising.

12] Turbulent Work Ethic

If the property market is ‘hot’ and there is plenty of demand, Estate Agents are generally performing at their worst. Their level of communication will be at an all time low and they’ll be working by their own schedule.

However, if the market is dead, you may get the best out of them. They’ll probably pop round and drop off some sugar; build some common ground and try to ‘relate’ to you and your problems. It’s pitiful.

13] Mr Know-it-all

When an Estate Agent doesn’t know an answer to your question, don’t expect a confession, nor should you expect a respectable response like, “I’m not entirely sure, but I will find out for you and get back to you”

No sir, you should strap on your seatbelt and expect a train of verbal bullshit.

Example:

Hey, Mr Estate Agent, what are the local schools like around here?”

errr…well, they’re very good. Yeah, my daughter goes to the one around the corner. Highly recommended. Your children will be safe and well educated there”

The Estate Agent is lying. He doesn’t have a kid. He hasn’t even had sex with a human before, only with bags of money.

Estate Agent Lies

14] Ridiculous fees

Most of us have fallen victim to this nonsense; their piss poor service at bullshit prices. But it’s not just their prices that annoy many of us, it’s the way they create imaginative ways of swindling money out of us and then package it to us like they actually believe it’s a fair deal.

Some agents have the audacity to charge vendors even if they don’t sell their property after a certain period of time. While others force vendors to pay as much as 3% when they have merely found a “ready, willing and able buyer” Yes, it’s as ludicrous as it sounds- the fee is still applicable even if the sale doesn’t go through, as long as they find an interested party.

I’m sorry, WHAT? How about I bend over and stretch my arse cheeks wide apart for you, so you can lube me up with your pot of wetlook hair gel, and then get to work on me?

15] Chinese Whispers

You have to remember, the estate agent is the “middle-man” The problem with having a middle man, especially one that’s dressed in an oversized polyester Burtons suit, is that information often falls out of their head, meaning information doesn’t always seamlessly relay as it should. Strange that, innit?

It’s not uncommon for a lot of the lower-end offers to never get delivered to the vendor if the estate agents feels he can make more money from the deal.


Please note, I don’t actually think every Estate Agent out there is an unscrupulous tossor; I just think the majority have committed at least one of the sins above. I have no doubt in my mind that there are a few good men standing, they’re just not as easy to find as the remaining parasites.

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ghassan 15th September, 2014 @ 16:39

@ propertywizzard

thanks, yes.
English is not my first language... its my fourth ..
I speak several languages, and I can say Estate agents are Idiots in four different languages.

None of the books you mentioned are to mainly used to automated the estate agents day to day process, welling and dealing..

thanks

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The final comment 15th September, 2014 @ 19:51

Hassan
Let's get a couple things out the way. As was pointed out earlier, you are clearly an educated person (sorry, I don't know your gender). I chose to use a 'pen name' because I can enjoy that luxury. However upset you are about an industry that has done well by you and vice versa, I suggest that you buy, sell, let and manage your own portfolio without using an agent. Don't say you own 20+ properties and then moan about the agents who helped you get to where you are now.
Whilst you may speak 4 languages, English should be priority, you live in England. Please learn to articulate and spell. This wonderful country allows ease of buying a property.
My career choice (Estate agent) was my choice. I am very good at my job, have a fantastic reputation and enjoy a healthy, loyal and extremely wealthy client base. Please, use an another agent or do it yourself - either way it will allow you to focus your anger issues towards the more serious issues facing us today.

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ghassan 16th September, 2014 @ 06:30

@ final but not yet final comments
typical estate agent personality say something and do
something else hide from the blame, and yet in a none regulated
Industry, of couse u enjoy the luxury. ..i doubt very much it was ur choice..

Yes I have someone to help with my small business
a business I build from heritage money brought from back home

You win Mr estate agent.

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propertywizzard 16th September, 2014 @ 10:44

ghassan ... Oh dear.....as someone else commented, this site really should have a greater purpose other than mindless rants like your own, I speak 3 languages other than my own "so what" what point are you trying to make, it appears you cant write or read English, as you continue to state the industry is not regulated, when my post clearly gave you details as to what good estate agents buy into with self regulation, and my other comment regarding only using an agent who is a member of ARLA or NAEA property ombudsman will give you some recourse, no one forces you to use an unregulated agency, so lets not just have mindless ranting, maybe you can share your experiences as to how you run your own property portfolio, who you register and deposit your tenants deposits with, make a constructive contribution to others that are looking for guidance.

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propertywizzard 16th September, 2014 @ 10:53

The pharmaceutical industry has been name-checked in a new report on corruption in the EU which has put the costs to the economy at a staggering €120bn a year.Despite the promising progress towards reducing petty corruption in general, a number of member states still struggle with risk-prone conditions in the healthcare sector, where incentives to give unofficial payments against differentiated treatment persist," notes the report.... PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD THROW STONES ....

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The final comment 16th September, 2014 @ 11:36

Hassan
You appear to be making alot of friends here!
I would love to respond to your last angry rant but I actually don't know what you're on about. As I've said previously, you have options and by all means exercise them, and rent your own properties out or sell them and move back 'home'.
It's clients like you that allow agents like us to terminate their instructions and focus on dealing with other, multi-lingual, educated people who are less angry, less resentful and more serious.
That was my Final Comment!

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investor 18th September, 2014 @ 09:54

ha ha ha

we all agree estate agents are bad, but felt this article is a bit offensive!

regards.

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legal Advisers 19th September, 2014 @ 09:44

@Clarke_l

I agree with you, I also worked part time (Weekends mainly) during my uni and experienced the same...

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every agency I ever worked in had numerous underhand and illegal practices taking place everyday. I mean everyday. Most agents are of a low intellect with offices run by power hungry , manipulative people who report to their equally unpleasant and even larger ego inflated bosses.
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oversea investor 22nd October, 2014 @ 17:51

Hi
Worse than estate agents are management agents..their purpose is to collect money only..
glad such articles published

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Candice D. Ashtal 23rd October, 2014 @ 05:27

To all the idiots on this page. I don't know where you get your facts, but some of the agents I know, have degrees in, law, business, psychology, etc. I in fact am doing a degree in Social Science. The problem with you people is you want the service of an agent, but don't want to pay for it. In some countries, estate agents cannot get paid without government getting paid their taxes first. Estate Agents taxes must be paid in full before a property transaction can proceed. This leaves no room for underhanded deals... Educate yourselves before you judge us all, by your stupidity, and ignorance.

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I am no one 24th October, 2014 @ 13:40

Hi
I found this below, thought to also share it..
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It’s the estate agents’ job to create a buzz around a property. They might try to panic you by arranging appointments when other buyers are also viewing the property. Rather than working through offers one at a time, they might try to introduce “sealed bids”, which pits you against other buyers without you knowing how much they are willing to offer.

Stay head-strong and don’t fall for it. All of this is aimed to push you into driving your price up much further than you can afford. So keep in mind what you can pay and stick to this – there’s no point in getting your dream home if you are then impoverished for the rest of your life.
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on selling your house..

The express estate agency charges you one set fee of £350 to advertise your house or flat, they also arrange viewing for you, brilliant, I used them sold my house no saved lots of money!

Andrew

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George Dodgeson. 24th October, 2014 @ 14:36

Well Mr. No-one, I can confirm that the Express estate agency seems to be able to sell houses PDQ, if my experiences are anything to go by oop here in the North. I noticed with conventional agents, a house in Halifax could easily take three or even four years to sell.
Has anyone noticed an unusual number of ex-rental houses up for sale? I'm guessing many landlords are getting out of that kind of investment because of bad arrears and high-ish operating costs. I mean, agent's fees, heavy insurance costs, ges-safe certs., and repairs and maintenance. There is then the looming spectre of rising interest rates soon on buy-to-let mortgages...

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Candice D. Ashtal 27th October, 2014 @ 14:21

Andrew, estate agents don't set prices, sellers do... the buzz in not to push up prices, it is to get an offer form a serious buyer, and to get rid of people who procrastinate and waist Agent time.

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George Dodgeson. 27th October, 2014 @ 16:23

Neither estate agents nor vendors set SOLD prices -- the buyers do. A vendor/agent can ask any price he/she likes, doesn't mean they will get it. There is strong evidence now all over Leeds for that. Since even ATM most houses are sold with the assistance of the moneylenders various, the sensible restrictions now on lending vs. earnings will at the very least stabilize SOLD prices, and maybe even push them down. And about time too -- the housing market has turned into a bad joke, especially London. Nearly half a million for a commonplace house? No wonder there are procrastinators about, who can blame them? Maybe they know about negative equity and don't want it in the future for themselves.
Come on folks, I'm not going to say this is rocket-science, but it's getting so obvious a 12-year old could see it.

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George Dodgeson. 27th October, 2014 @ 21:55

Looks like Sarah Beeny on channel 4 has been reading the last part of my contribution #380 about on-line estate agents -- if you saw her program Ch4 20:30 to 21:00 on 27/10/14.
She gives lots of useful information about selling your house on-line for much less cost than conventional estate agents. She quotes the cost as between £100 and £1000 for on-line agents.
But remember folks -- you saw it here first!

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Benji 27th October, 2014 @ 22:53

George Dodgeson contribution post #357

"B of E's interest rates start to rise. I'm predicting it will start around October-November this year(2014)."

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George Dodgeson. 28th October, 2014 @ 08:55

Apologies: The title of sarah Beeny's piece on C4 was "How to sell your house". Forgot to include in my posting.

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George Dodgeson. 28th October, 2014 @ 09:41

And my posting #345. Must do something about my bad memory... Gingko biloba?

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The final comment 28th October, 2014 @ 15:27

How much longer is this going to go on for?

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George Dodgeson. 28th October, 2014 @ 17:49

This kind of discussion will go on and on and on websites such as this as long as --
1) There are so many corrupt estate agents around.
2) There are so many unscrupulous and greedy moneylenders and their backers around willing to lend money on a grand scale to people who are less than likely to be able to pay it back. I.e. the american toxic housing loans that started all this in the first place.
3) The lunacy in the UK housing market continues.

The best cure for corruption, corruption, corruption --is -- exposure, exposure, exposure. This is when free-speech is enabled by websites like this one. I thank God for websites such as this.

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I am no one 29th October, 2014 @ 12:52

Totally agree with you George, there must be thousands of corrupted estate agents are out there. Well said.

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Captain 29th October, 2014 @ 15:00

This article is priceless. If there was to be a cartoon made about estate agents and the general perception of us, this would be a guideline to the script.

A little about me, 11 GCSE's A*-B, 3 A levels, 1 AS level and BSc in Geology.

I work in Central London, have my own house, 1 little girl and I am home by 6.30 most nights.

Income in excess of £60,000pa (that would be a bad year), happy with life, job I love.

The trick? Don't be a douche. As Lily pointed out, the industry is full of sleazeballs, but these people will go throughout their careers making mediocre incomes of around £30,000pa. If people like you, they will buy from you, no pressure needed.

Think what you want about us, I am comfortable, money in the bank, drive an A5 Coupe and half way to purchasing my first rental cash with in central, which should give me a gross of £1500pcm.

Advice? Get on the ladder now people.

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George Dodgeson. 29th October, 2014 @ 16:30

Same old, same old, talk about how much they are earning, how happy they are etc. etc. etc. Heard it all before ad infinitum ad nauseam.
Why should ANY buyer give a damn about all that? Buyers have enough on their plate as it is trying to find somewhere to live. I've news for you -- THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW!

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Candice D. Ashtal 30th October, 2014 @ 13:42

Shame George Dodgeson. Seen it all, "heard it all" but you still don't get it. Which means you are either stupid or just don't want to get it. Which is it? I hope the latter because there is no cure for stupidity. Some of the Agents on here are more educated than the lot of you put together. If you haven't noticed the blaming game is not working, and none of you big mouths have come up with solutions to your own problems. Nobody is forcing you to use an agent, sell/rent out your own property, or put a advert in the paper or on line looking for a buyer/tenant/house to buy. Agents don't want to work with the likes of you, we would rather work with people who respect us and value our services. My clients come back to me all the time, so I don't need you.

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George Dodgeson. 30th October, 2014 @ 15:14

Candice D. Ashtal:
Being rude, ignorant, arrogant, abusive in public simply proves my point. You will never get your point across to people who matter that way. You don't, as usual, read what is put properly. I am NOT a seller as is obvious, although in the past I have bought and sold twelve houses since my twenties.
Again, as usual, you condemn yourself out of your own mouth by descending to abuse -- pity.
It just means you have no point at all to put.

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Captain 30th October, 2014 @ 15:45

@George - Looks to me like you are the one being abusive / rude. The simple matter is, sellers use estate agents. Buyers and sellers do not appreciate the amount of office work is required in the conveyancing which goes on behind the scenes. If you as a buyer are rude to the agent on a viewing, and then want to put an offer in, why would an agent go with you? The thought of having to deal with you as a buyer on a 6 month transaction makes my skin crawl. Go buy a house of ebay or gumtree if you do not want to get involved with agents.

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George Dodgeson. 30th October, 2014 @ 16:39

I know who are the decent estate agents in Leeds, and who are not. There are some estate agents I would not even call. I shall decide with whom I shall spend over £100G. A good estate agent friend of mine, from whom I bought my present house is likely to get my (cash) business next time. He knows I don't mess about in business, if an offer of mine is accepted, it's as good as money in the bank for the seller. I am well known in Leeds for being totally straight in business, a hard won reputation I guard jealously.
Irrespective of whether anyone putting in an offer is rude or not, you are bound BY LAW as an estate agent to put that offer to your client. That's why an honest estate agent "would go", would HAVE to go with person making the offer. I'm afraid, "CAPTAIN", you have just tripped yourself up and shown everyone here just what you are.

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Captain 30th October, 2014 @ 16:48

@George - very true, but a seller will also ask for an agents recommendation if offers are on par. You are also less likely to find out if you are the closest/how close for being a tw*t.

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Candice D. Astal 30th October, 2014 @ 17:48

What??? George Dodgey

"Rude, arrogant'... bla, bla, bla... Is that the best you can do? I asked a question which you have not answered. You can insult Estate Agent, the fact is what I said was True, and proof that you don't know how to solve you own problems. I own six Real Estate Franchise, and people with attitudes like yours are what the industry terms, "Bye, Bye Now" we don't want to work with your kind, that is why we say Bye, bye, now. I probably have a better education than you do. In fact I study the social science of buyers and sellers, while doing a degree. The clever ones treat us with respect, because they know they cannot do the job themselves. I never said you were a seller, now who cant read? I gave you all the options to help yourself, but you are still complaining...why is that? clearly don't want to spend your money to help yourself, but you want us to spend ours to help you.

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Twattybollocks 30th October, 2014 @ 18:17

Dear Candice,

May I suggest that instead of studying the social science of buyers whilst doing a degree, you concentrate more on English and putting a structured reply together, preferably with paragraphs.

May I further hazard a guess that you are American?

You stating that "I probably have a better education than you do" put's you firmly in the middle of the issue. Arrogance, inability to empathise and far too stupid to realise that if you were doing your job properly as a business owner, you would be trying to turn the "Bye Bye Now" (sic) crowd into your customers, and not turning them away.

Try not getting your panties in a twist when replying!

TB
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George Dodgeson. 30th October, 2014 @ 18:59

There is an old saying "fools and their money are soon parted". The very reason I have my own cash money to buy a house is because I am careful with my money, and I sure as hell ain't no fool...not where money is concerned. Especially not where £100G or more is concerned. That's why I know ALL the tricks, dodges and chicanery that SOME estate agents get up to.
An agent selling a house on behalf of a client is just that -- an agent, nothing more. It is the OWNER of the house to make any decisions about an offer, whether that owner is a company, a private individual, or a building society in repossession, or whatever.
All this self-justification I read here from what are obviously estate agents cuts no ice with me whatsoever. It is obvious that on-line estate agents are coming into the UK housing market, the conventional estate agents are killing the goose that lays their golden eggs with their high fees and frankly ridiculous antics in so many cases.
All this bleating, criticism, abuse, threats I read here won't make the slightest bit of difference.
The writing is on the wall...

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Candice D. Ashtal 30th October, 2014 @ 19:11

Dear Twatty

Wrong guess about being American, and actually I'm Dyslexic like Sir Winston Churchill. So sorry for you, Social Science it is, just to understand your sick thinking. If Psychology teaches one anything, and as you have seen above nothing can change George's mind. People have to what to change. It is not the Job of the real estate industry to educate the public.

So Bye, Bye, Now. I make good living without the likes of people who don't want to understand the set science of real estate.

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Candice D. Ashtal 30th October, 2014 @ 19:25

Shame George only 100G, and only 12 properties? You far behind the big guns. Quite frankly, I only come to this page to use comments like yours and Twatty's to back my research. You guys prove me right every time. Thanks for that.

Keep telling yourself you are so marvellous, "it is called a "delusion of grandeur" in psychology.

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Candice D. Ashtal 30th October, 2014 @ 19:36

To the person making comment number 413. This has been going on for years, I was on last year, had a long discussion with someone, in order to conduct research on buyers and seller. Happy to see they still at it. I come on now and again, just to ruffle feathers, It's all in the name of fun for me.

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George Dodgeson. 30th October, 2014 @ 22:01

Candice D. Ashtal:

Research? That's a favorite cover-up for nothing else to do. I'm retired so I have time on my hands.
Re. number of houses I purchased, as you should know, people change their residence on average every seven years. So I'm fairly average, not a "big gun" whatever that means. With twelve houses and one lease-hold flat in London "under my belt" that is enough, plenty enough experience for me. Or anyone.

No what's really going on here (as with web places like twitter) is an example of "The games people play" by Eric Berne and his transactional analysis from the 1960s. None of it has anything to do with the subject matter really. It's just a matter of points scoring and an unfortunate mind-set. I think the modern word is 'trog' or 'troll' for such people in this transactional/emotional thing.

Unfortunately all this illogical and irrelevant nonsense does tend to get in the way of real hard facts about estate agents and the moneylenders, but not for long. Plenty of us (like millions) out there know the reality about estate agents. Thank God the i/net is changing things. In somewhere between ten and twenty years, the ordinary high street estate agent will have disappeared altogether. And good riddance say I and lots of others. To quote "Twatty-bollocks"

"if you were doing your job properly as a business owner, you would be trying to turn the "Bye Bye Now" (sic) crowd into your customers, and not turning them away"

Now there's a recipe for commercial suicide if I ever heard one. Turning potential customers with money away. What would Mr. Arkwright say about that then Candice? If that's your name...

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Captain 31st October, 2014 @ 08:55

Yawn. This board is pointless. There does not seem to be anyone on here with any sense over than the Agents.

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George Dodgeson. 31st October, 2014 @ 10:14

In February 2010 the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) announced that a change in the legislation for estate agents has led to a shake up in the way homes are sold, allowing cheaper online agents to become more established than they could before. It's obvious that most property advertizing in on-line, with Rightmove having about an 80% share. Seems also obvious that the rest of property selling will also go on line. Expensive high street premises plus running costs are NOT REALLY NECESSARY. Neither is the huge average estate agent's fee of 1.8% (source "Which" 2011)

A fact buyers should know: Agents work together. This is where a main agent will take on a property and send details to other local agents. These unter-agents market and introduce applicants to the main agent. Does the seller-client get to know about all these other agents? What data-bases are being created that have personal and private information about both buyers and sellers? How does the data protection act apply?

Are YOU comfortable with your private
personal details and your FINANCES being on reams of estate agent's records? Estate agents you might not even know about?

These are questions that are serious, not the usual personal-abuse nonsense. With the dubious reputation of so many estate agents, urgent investigation is needed here.

If YOU have any experience of this, get posting!

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George Dodgeson. 31st October, 2014 @ 10:33

A bit of arithmetic here.
London house for sale at £400,000.
Estate agent's fee at 1.8% = £7,200.
VAT at 20% = £1440.
Tot. to pay to estate agent = £8640.

Now the last time I looked into estate agent's fees, the average was 1%. So how come, when house prices have gone UP so much by a massive factor since around the mid nineties, estate agent's fees have not gone DOWN? Where is the competition?

Answer, just what I keep banging on about, ON-LINE AGENCY!

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Candice D. Ashtal 31st October, 2014 @ 10:56

George Dodgey, You have clearly shown everyone on this page you don't want to be "turned around," neither do the Bye, Bye Nows. It's the old thing of, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink." You stated a few posts back you had 12 properties, it must be the retired state of mind letting you down. Oh, and by the way I'm a Professional Trainer and Coach of Estate Agents as well. I also get paid for the research I do. I don't know where you get your Real Estate information from, however the world is looking at more of a rental market in the next few years, as people are battling to afford properties, and agents who stick it out will be cashing in as usual.

I will tell you this though, your countries laws on real estate, are not the most conducive to the Real Estate Industry. In other countries around the world, estate agents can't get up to half the nonsense they do in your country.

But you did state, there are some good agents, and you would go back to your old friend. The point is you know full well, you are generalizing, which does not always create the correct perspective about things.

Furthermore I'm not some foreigner who crawled into your countries market, as you assumed some posts back. Your Assumptions are incorrect. As an agent I would not want to work in your country. The truth is this page is International, and the world is getting a clear picture of how you people think and perceive others. From where I'm sitting, it is not a very nice picture.

Quite frankly you have offered nothing new, and your unwillingness to try to engage or make sense of what the agents have said, has left you wanting, it's your loss. As for your friend the estate agent, you should stop knocking his industry, you cannot respect him, if you don't respect how he makes a living, and bush all agents under the same comb.

For the record, English is my second language, so laugh all you want at my grammar, still does not make you right.

I have a lecture to go give, on why everyone looses if estate agents negotiate commission. You can Google the "Commission Cutting Report," by Brian Ferry, if you like, you may learn something. Maybe we will catch up on this page, when I go back to University in February. It's time to hit the books, I have a month of exams to get through.

Take Care

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Candice D. Ashtal 31st October, 2014 @ 11:32

Sorry George, google "The commission cutting report" by Mike Ferry

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George Dodgeson. 31st October, 2014 @ 11:36

Candice -- your are obviously confusing me with another poster here. 'Fraid I don't believe your personal details you keep going on about. You are't what you say you are, a common thing on the i/net.
No credibility.

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Candice D. Ashtal 31st October, 2014 @ 11:49

George, Try me E-mail me on Candice.scheepers@infoprop.co.za. I write under Candice D. Ashtal. You can find me on linkedin under Candice Scheepers.

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Fran 31st October, 2014 @ 12:16

I have to agree with George our experience (we live in the South East) has been a nightmare after trying to move to a National Park area. We were fobbed of so many times so that friends/agents got the first pickings,we have had offers not passed on. In fact all the things listed on here we experienced at one point or another, because of this we lost three buyers who I must add were very patient.
We have given up at the moment.
I noticed one of the managers of a well known estate agency in Salisbury whom we complained about to his chief executive for lying to us, has now left the firm and set up on his own.He lied in an email to me and then quoted so much rubbish trying to wriggle out of it.
Somehow he had added himself to my Linkedin page and was full of the same rubbish and self importance of how wonderful and succesful he was now he is on his own. Only time will catch up with him.I wonder who he is trying to convince, not me I hope!

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legal Adviser 31st October, 2014 @ 13:28

To George Dodgeson, we totally agree with you and support you fully...
everything written in this article is true.

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BA LAW 31st October, 2014 @ 14:25

Candice is right. George cannot remember what he wrote in his previous comments, e.g. in 419, he mentioned 12 properties. Just saying...

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George Dodgeson. 31st October, 2014 @ 18:23

Section 3(1)(d) of the Estate Agents Act 1979 confers power on the Secretary of State to declare practices in relation to estate agency work to be undesirable. When a practice has been so declared the Director General of Fair Trading can, if satisfied that a person has engaged in it and is unfit to carry on estate agency work, make an order prohibiting that person from carrying on estate agency work, either at all or of a description specified.

By this Order certain practices are declared to be undesirable,namely, the failure by an estate agent promptly and in writing to disclose certain interests (article 2(a) and Schedule 1), discriminatory conduct against purchasers who are not accepting services from the agent or from certain other persons, and the failure to keep clients informed as to such services as have been applied for by prospective purchasers(article 2(b) and Schedule 2), the making of misrepresentations and the failure promptly and in writing to FORWARD TO THE CLIENT accurate details of offers received (article 2(c) and Schedule 3).

The above lifted directly without editing from

The Estate Agents (Undesirable Practices) (No. 2) Order 1991

(This is me) Amazingly, reading through various .gov directives, not only does an estate agent HAVE to inform his client as to any pertaining matter on the property, such as an offer, but the agent also has this responsibility TO THE PERSON MAKING THE OFFER. So if the agent knows something material about the property the buyer should know, it's just the same as declaring anything "material" on a car or house insurance policy and suchlike.
I.e. that person offending can be legally barred from estate agency work.

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George Dodgeson. 31st October, 2014 @ 18:42

This means you can sue for damages the person responsible if there has been suppression of a material fact of which you should have been informed.
And you would not be suing a "man of straw" -- there have been plenty on here bragging their heads off about how much money they are making as estate agents. £60,000 was mentioned right here, and expensive cars various. There is an ombudsman service for this which should help you.

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Benji 1st November, 2014 @ 09:08

With twelve houses and one lease-hold flat in London "under my belt" that is enough, plenty enough experience for me.

Had to laugh at that George.

I know ALL the tricks, dodges and chicanery

Oh Really.

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George Dodgeson. 1st November, 2014 @ 09:54

EXTRACT from a piece of mine a few years ago. Sorry about the caps:--

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS FOR HOUSE BUYERS.

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4) DO NOT TRUST ANY ESTATE AGENT UNLESS YOU KNOW THEM WELL. HALF OF ALL AGENTS WILL BE WORKING SOME KIND OF SCAM ON YOU, (AND/OR THEIR VENDOR). AGENTS DON'T WORK FOR VENDORS, THEY WORK FOR THEMSELVES TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE.
5) TWO OR MORE AGENTS INVOLVED? LEAVE IT ALONE! IT'S HARD TO SELL. THERE WILL BE A REASON. BEEN FOR SALE 2 YEARS? IT'S A FLYBOARDED FAKE SALE FOR SURE. THE TENANT IN RESIDENCE GIVES THE GAME AWAY.

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8) BORROW MORE THAN THREE TIMES YOUR SALARY, AND YOU'LL HAVE A HARD LIFE FOR A LONG TIME. REMEMBER A BANK RATE OF ONLY A HALF PERCENT IS MOST UNUSUAL. WHEN IT GOES UP TO A NORMAL 4-5%, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SERVICE THE DEBT? THINK 25 YEARS AHEAD.
9) THINK BEFORE YOU BORROW LOT OF MONEY FOR A HOUSE. HOW SAFE IS YOUR JOB? ARE YOU RECKONING ON TWO SALARIES, ONE OF WHICH COULD DISAPPEAR IN THE FUTURE? ALSO THINK IF YOU WERE SELLING THAT HOUSE, AS YOU MAY WELL BE IN 7 YEARS TIME.
10) PHILOSOPHY: MAKE UP YOUR MIND WHY YOU'RE BUYING A HOUSE. IS IT A HOME, OR IS IT AN INVESTMENT? THE TWO ARE OFTEN INCOMPATIBLE.

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George Dodgeson. 1st November, 2014 @ 11:31

A good tip for those wanting to buy a property, but are inexperienced.

The seller of a property uses an estate AGENT to sell it, so why don't you use a BUYING agent to buy it?

The seller of a property remains unknown to you as a buyer, and this way, the buyer remains unknown to the seller in the same way.

The moderate amount of money you pay to a buying agent could save lots more money later, perhaps when it's too late. It would be a kind of "insurance". You get all your agent's expertise about the selling agent's reputation in the report. So long as you don't reveal your name, address etc. you can view the property along with your agent.

It goes without saying the buying agent would not have to be a selling estate agent himself, so that would have to be checked out thoroughly.

Start the ball rolling by Googling "house buying agent"

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