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	<title>Comments on: Section 21 &#8211; Notice of Possession Order Form</title>
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		<title>By: Yolande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yolande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I and my Husband have been given a section 21 notice of 2months from our landlord The national trust, we we not informed of any issues, and had a dispute with a neibour over her blocking the drive, she then faulse called the police lied to them and droped the charges after our landlord was informed they then served us the notice before getting our side of the story, all these allegaions are faulse, and she just has it in for us, what can we do as our rural agent is not returning our calls and is being very unprofesional he has lied to us and wont give us any help at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I and my Husband have been given a section 21 notice of 2months from our landlord The national trust, we we not informed of any issues, and had a dispute with a neibour over her blocking the drive, she then faulse called the police lied to them and droped the charges after our landlord was informed they then served us the notice before getting our side of the story, all these allegaions are faulse, and she just has it in for us, what can we do as our rural agent is not returning our calls and is being very unprofesional he has lied to us and wont give us any help at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/section-21-notice-of-possession-order-form/comment-page-3/#comment-83135</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alphagret321. Yes you can remeber to get a HIPS done first.

Christian, As long as none of you signed anything( if you did it would be classed as a resident Landlord agreement) If your agreement was verbal only then your Tenant is nothing more than a Lodger and has no legal rights to remain in your property if you have asked them to leave. You have already given a reasonable period of notice to leave therefore you have been very fair. 

Your options
1, Change the locks and give them notice to collect their belongings.

2, You could call the police and inform them of the situation that you have asked them to leave and they still refuse and you want them out today, they will assist as it will be classed as trespassing.

Both options are drastic so be sure of your friendship before you go down this route. 

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alphagret321. Yes you can remeber to get a HIPS done first.</p>
<p>Christian, As long as none of you signed anything( if you did it would be classed as a resident Landlord agreement) If your agreement was verbal only then your Tenant is nothing more than a Lodger and has no legal rights to remain in your property if you have asked them to leave. You have already given a reasonable period of notice to leave therefore you have been very fair. </p>
<p>Your options<br />
1, Change the locks and give them notice to collect their belongings.</p>
<p>2, You could call the police and inform them of the situation that you have asked them to leave and they still refuse and you want them out today, they will assist as it will be classed as trespassing.</p>
<p>Both options are drastic so be sure of your friendship before you go down this route. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: christian</title>
		<link>http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/section-21-notice-of-possession-order-form/comment-page-3/#comment-82621</link>
		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello All,

I am renting out a room in my own house (I live there too) to someone that I know quite well and therefore decided not to have a written contract. Things haven&#039;t been working out and I decided that I would rather live on my own. I told my friend in December that it would be better if she moved out by the end of February (I thought 2 months notice was reasonable). Now she says that she needs to stay a while longer because she has no job and it would be difficult for her to find another room elsewhere. I said she could stay another 10 days but she wants to stay longer.

What can I do? Do I have any rights to make her leave? Also, considering that she has consistently paid rent late...
Many thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All,</p>
<p>I am renting out a room in my own house (I live there too) to someone that I know quite well and therefore decided not to have a written contract. Things haven&#8217;t been working out and I decided that I would rather live on my own. I told my friend in December that it would be better if she moved out by the end of February (I thought 2 months notice was reasonable). Now she says that she needs to stay a while longer because she has no job and it would be difficult for her to find another room elsewhere. I said she could stay another 10 days but she wants to stay longer.</p>
<p>What can I do? Do I have any rights to make her leave? Also, considering that she has consistently paid rent late&#8230;<br />
Many thanks</p>
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		<title>By: alphagret321</title>
		<link>http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/section-21-notice-of-possession-order-form/comment-page-3/#comment-81956</link>
		<dc:creator>alphagret321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, just a quick query. Notice has been served to my Tenants using Section 21 (b) 6 months into the Tenancy. They should be out end of March 2010. Can I put the property up for sale despite end of March not here yet? thanks very much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, just a quick query. Notice has been served to my Tenants using Section 21 (b) 6 months into the Tenancy. They should be out end of March 2010. Can I put the property up for sale despite end of March not here yet? thanks very much</p>
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		<title>By: Aunty P</title>
		<link>http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/section-21-notice-of-possession-order-form/comment-page-3/#comment-81510</link>
		<dc:creator>Aunty P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn, yawn, yawn, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn, yawn, yawn, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: su99£</title>
		<link>http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/section-21-notice-of-possession-order-form/comment-page-3/#comment-81508</link>
		<dc:creator>su99£</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for sharing it thats a wonderful thing, but can someone help me out about the dates in section 21.. if i get it signed by the tenant initially at the time to give the possession of the house... do i still need to serve it before two months? if i need to take possession of the house or i can give it to tenant in the beginning?  a bit confused/////</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for sharing it thats a wonderful thing, but can someone help me out about the dates in section 21.. if i get it signed by the tenant initially at the time to give the possession of the house&#8230; do i still need to serve it before two months? if i need to take possession of the house or i can give it to tenant in the beginning?  a bit confused/////</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/section-21-notice-of-possession-order-form/comment-page-3/#comment-81507</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We give hard copies of the Goverments guidelines to our clients. You can request copies free of charge from them in the post. I dont think you have to be a Landlord or Tenant but please dont quote me on that. Their website is as followhats.

www.communities.gov.uk
6.2 What does the landlord have to do if he or she wants me to leave when the fixed term of a shorthold tenancy has ended?
The landlord must give you at least 2 months’ notice that he or she requires possession. The landlord can give you notice at any time during the fixed term, but the date he or she states possession is required CANNOT be before the end of the fixed term. If the tenancy is on a contractual period or statutory periodic basis, the date on which the notice expires must be the LAST (please note not the day before)day of a tenancy period,
and the notice must state that possession is required under Section 21 of the Housing Act 1988.
Hope you find this usefull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We give hard copies of the Goverments guidelines to our clients. You can request copies free of charge from them in the post. I dont think you have to be a Landlord or Tenant but please dont quote me on that. Their website is as followhats.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.communities.gov.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.communities.gov.uk</a><br />
6.2 What does the landlord have to do if he or she wants me to leave when the fixed term of a shorthold tenancy has ended?<br />
The landlord must give you at least 2 months’ notice that he or she requires possession. The landlord can give you notice at any time during the fixed term, but the date he or she states possession is required CANNOT be before the end of the fixed term. If the tenancy is on a contractual period or statutory periodic basis, the date on which the notice expires must be the LAST (please note not the day before)day of a tenancy period,<br />
and the notice must state that possession is required under Section 21 of the Housing Act 1988.<br />
Hope you find this usefull.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/section-21-notice-of-possession-order-form/comment-page-3/#comment-81500</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats good then he will also know she/he are not the same person. The IP address is the same for everyone in our building? Intresting though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats good then he will also know she/he are not the same person. The IP address is the same for everyone in our building? Intresting though.</p>
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		<title>By: twattybollocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>twattybollocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

The Landlord knows exactly who KK121 is as he is the site owner and has the sign up information! Where does it say that KK works for a company that gives advice for free?????

Who gets paid for their advice &quot;huney&quot;? I don&#039;t, and that is my whole point. If you are a landlord who takes the rent but is not prepared to put their hand in their pocket to get ratified legal advice as pert of their business then frankly you should not be a landlord1 OK everyone wants to get something for nothing - even me BUT, as I have stated before, if the landlord (or tenant) wants advice to take into court and then rely on the information given, they need to go to a bone fide solicitor or other housing professional who has the indemnities in place to protect against a charge of professional misconduct.

Anyone can join these forums, including you Lisa, but like everyone else, we do not know who you are. You SAY you have a legal degree and 3 professional affiliations - but no one here can verify that! You say judges are not wrong. Well what is the appeal court for? OK - not all judges get it wrong but some do. The Magistrate who is more likely to oversee the case is normally not legally trained and comes from the community. Everyone is fallible. If I am wrong I am man enough to admit it but only, ONLY when I am proved wrong by someone who&#039;s bone fides I can verify.

This forum is doing EXACTLY what it should be doing - encouraging debate amongst Landlords and Tenants - not everyone is going to be impressed with what is said but if you can&#039;t take critisism then perhaps you should not visit again?

TB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>The Landlord knows exactly who KK121 is as he is the site owner and has the sign up information! Where does it say that KK works for a company that gives advice for free?????</p>
<p>Who gets paid for their advice &#8220;huney&#8221;? I don&#8217;t, and that is my whole point. If you are a landlord who takes the rent but is not prepared to put their hand in their pocket to get ratified legal advice as pert of their business then frankly you should not be a landlord1 OK everyone wants to get something for nothing &#8211; even me BUT, as I have stated before, if the landlord (or tenant) wants advice to take into court and then rely on the information given, they need to go to a bone fide solicitor or other housing professional who has the indemnities in place to protect against a charge of professional misconduct.</p>
<p>Anyone can join these forums, including you Lisa, but like everyone else, we do not know who you are. You SAY you have a legal degree and 3 professional affiliations &#8211; but no one here can verify that! You say judges are not wrong. Well what is the appeal court for? OK &#8211; not all judges get it wrong but some do. The Magistrate who is more likely to oversee the case is normally not legally trained and comes from the community. Everyone is fallible. If I am wrong I am man enough to admit it but only, ONLY when I am proved wrong by someone who&#8217;s bone fides I can verify.</p>
<p>This forum is doing EXACTLY what it should be doing &#8211; encouraging debate amongst Landlords and Tenants &#8211; not everyone is going to be impressed with what is said but if you can&#8217;t take critisism then perhaps you should not visit again?</p>
<p>TB</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also like to add,im not perfect either I have made plenty of mistakes in the past that has cost me thousands. Its a very expensive lesson learnt but you do learn not to make mistakes again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to add,im not perfect either I have made plenty of mistakes in the past that has cost me thousands. Its a very expensive lesson learnt but you do learn not to make mistakes again.</p>
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