Comments on: Electrical Safety For Landlords In Rental Property http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/ DOCUMENTING ONE MAN'S JOURNEY TO BECOMING A PROPERTY MILLIONAIRE Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:13:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeremy http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-185069 Jeremy Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:07:54 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-185069 Hello Kirsty Sorry to disagree with the very competant Benji - who's top man on electrical advice, but... Because you've written in "text-speak" I'm not sure if your socket is broken or your plug only. If only your plug has burned out, then it's probably faulty wiring within the plug. If the machine is yours, the it's your responsibility to sort out. Hello Kirsty

Sorry to disagree with the very competant Benji – who’s top man on electrical advice, but…

Because you’ve written in “text-speak” I’m not sure if your socket is broken or your plug only. If only your plug has burned out, then it’s probably faulty wiring within the plug. If the machine is yours, the it’s your responsibility to sort out.

]]> By: Benji http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-185033 Benji Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:37:21 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-185033 Kirsty, It depends if the councils socket is at fault or your tumble drier is. Contact the council first, they will have their own qualified contractors who will do the work competently and cheaply. If a tenant gets work carried out without consulting their landlord, the landlord has no obligation to pay. Unless IVIL electical services are offering to do the work and then try billing the council direct? Kirsty,
It depends if the councils socket is at fault or your tumble drier is.

Contact the council first, they will have their own qualified contractors who will do the work competently and cheaply.

If a tenant gets work carried out without consulting their landlord, the landlord has no obligation to pay.

Unless IVIL electical services are offering to do the work and then try billing the council direct?

]]> By: CIVIL Electrical http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-184950 CIVIL Electrical Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:38:21 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-184950 You will also need to tell them that you would like a competent Electrician to Test and Inspect the property in order to make sure every thing is ok. For Electrical Installation Condition Report for a 3 bed house you will be looking at £160. you will need to get an independent Electrician to carry out this and get them to pay for it. Thanks CIVIL Electrical Servces 02088441490 07714255688 You will also need to tell them that you would like a competent Electrician to Test and Inspect the property in order to make sure every thing is ok.
For Electrical Installation Condition Report for a 3 bed house you will be looking at £160. you will need to get an independent Electrician to carry out this and get them to pay for it.

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]]> By: CIVIL Electrical http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-184948 CIVIL Electrical Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:27:44 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-184948 The council will be responsible. you will need to write to them with the photo of the socket and copy Electrical Safey Council they will take you serious. You did not say how long ago this was install. However this dosn't sound like wear and tear issue gradually developing over a number of years. There would have bee loose connection and gradually acking and burning out Thanks Michael CIVIL Electical Services The council will be responsible. you will need to write to them with the photo of the socket and copy Electrical Safey Council they will take you serious. You did not say how long ago this was install. However this dosn’t sound like wear and tear issue gradually developing over a number of years. There would have bee loose connection and gradually acking and burning out

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Michael
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]]> By: kirsty http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-184942 kirsty Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:05:40 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-184942 the council rewired my kitchen putting in new sockets for my tumble dryer, washing machine, fridge and freezer now the socket for my dryer has burnt out melting the plug on the dryer now i cant use it are the council to blame and if so should they replace it or the plug or do i have to any help would be appreciated thanks. the council rewired my kitchen putting in new sockets for my tumble dryer, washing machine, fridge and freezer now the socket for my dryer has burnt out melting the plug on the dryer now i cant use it are the council to blame and if so should they replace it or the plug or do i have to any help would be appreciated thanks.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-180357 Jeremy Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:20:00 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-180357 Hi Gail, Is the cooker on the inventory drafted by the landlord? If so, that will clear up the "unfurnished" smokescreen. Inform the landlord in writing that he has legal obligations to ensure supplied appliances are safe. Give him a reasonable deadline to do an inspection or to provide a copy of any in-force electrical safety inspection report. Tell him failure will lead you to commissioning an inspection and deduct the fee from the next month's rent. Shop around and keep quotes to show you chose a sensible fee. The report coming back saying safe - unsafe will decide your next actions. Hi Gail,

Is the cooker on the inventory drafted by the landlord? If so, that will clear up the “unfurnished” smokescreen.

Inform the landlord in writing that he has legal obligations to ensure supplied appliances are safe. Give him a reasonable deadline to do an inspection or to provide a copy of any in-force electrical safety inspection report. Tell him failure will lead you to commissioning an inspection and deduct the fee from the next month’s rent. Shop around and keep quotes to show you chose a sensible fee.

The report coming back saying safe – unsafe will decide your next actions.

]]> By: Gail Hampton http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-180354 Gail Hampton Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:00:08 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-180354 My son lives in a rented property. When he moved in there was an oven, hob and extractor. They have reported the oven is overheating and smelling of burning when on. I contacted the landlord and requested an electrician to look at this. I a very concerned as my son has three small children in the house. The landlord has intimated that the house was rented as unfurnished but this oven was in situ when he took over the house. He is refusing to look at this oven at all plus the appliance had never been serviced either. What concerns me is that my daughter previously stayed in this house when a near disaster happened. They were all luckily out at work when the aluminium flue melted and when they returned home from work the house was covered in black soot. When the plumber arrived he advised them the wrong glue had been fitted to the boiler - it should have been stainless steel and not aluminium hence it melting and eminating soot all over the property. The plumber advised they were lucky they were all out and not asleep in bed or they would have not be here today!! This landlord is taking 625 a month rent and they can't get any repairs done promptly or correctly! This appliance is concerning me as I am frightened this will cause a fire in the property. I have been in touch with the private renting section where the landlord is registered and they advise me it is the responsibility of the landlord to repair and service this appliance. Your comments would be appreciated. Mrs H - Dundee Scotland. My son lives in a rented property. When he moved in there was an oven, hob and extractor. They have reported the oven is overheating and smelling of burning when on. I contacted the landlord and requested an electrician to look at this. I a
very concerned as my son has three small children in the house. The landlord has intimated that the house was rented as unfurnished but this oven was in situ when he took over the house. He is refusing to look at this oven at all plus the appliance had never been serviced either. What concerns me is that my daughter previously stayed in this house when a near disaster happened. They were all luckily out at work when the aluminium flue melted and when they returned home from work the house was covered in black soot. When the plumber arrived he advised them the wrong glue had been fitted to the boiler – it should have been stainless steel and not aluminium hence it melting and eminating soot all over the property. The plumber advised they were lucky they were all out and not asleep in bed or they would have not be here today!! This landlord is taking 625 a month rent and they can’t get any repairs done promptly or correctly! This appliance is concerning me as I am frightened this will cause a fire in the property. I have been in touch with the private renting section where the landlord is registered and they advise me it is the responsibility of the landlord to repair and service this appliance. Your comments would be appreciated. Mrs H – Dundee Scotland.

]]> By: CIVIL Electrical http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-179255 CIVIL Electrical Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:34:10 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-179255 Hi Tony you will need to write a formal letter to your Housing Association and make sure you copy your local council Electrical Safety division whatever they are call. Stating that the Electrical instalation is not safe and had not been rectified after failing an inspection report. This should wake them up and get them to rectify it for you. They have got the duty of care to you to make sure your are not put in danger and they don't seem to be doing this. Thanks Hi Tony you will need to write a formal letter to your Housing Association and make sure you copy your local council Electrical Safety division whatever they are call. Stating that the Electrical instalation is not safe and had not been rectified after failing an inspection report. This should wake them up and get them to rectify it for you. They have got the duty of care to you to make sure your are not put in danger and they don’t seem to be doing this.

Thanks

]]> By: tony http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-179250 tony Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:24:21 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-179250 we live in a housing association house and in september 2010 we had a wiring test done on the house and it failed and where told the house had to be rewired but as yet we have had no work done and they keep sending me up the garden path that they will sort it out does any body know where we stand on this as the electric last passed a test in 2003 we live in a housing association house and in september 2010 we had a wiring test done on the house and it failed and where told the house had to be rewired but as yet we have had no work done and they keep sending me up the garden path that they will sort it out does any body know where we stand on this as the electric last passed a test in 2003

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-requirements-for-electrical-safety/comment-page-2/#comment-178995 Jeremy Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:40:31 +0000 http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/?p=1244#comment-178995 Hello Debbie, Legally, no. As long as the unit itself is safe then it can continue to be used. See http://www.esc.org.uk/fileadmin/user_upload/documents/industry/best_practice/BestPracticeGuide4-Locked.pdf, especially page 19. Ask your landlord to provide you evidence of electrical inspections. Treat theri non-reply with suspicion. My tenants get annual papwork automatically, even if they don't ask for it. Are you asking because you don't like the look of the unit or because it's frequently tripping? If the latter, there may be a problem elsewhere with the installation or the amount of load you're taking from one area (e.g. too many extension cables). Hello Debbie,

Legally, no. As long as the unit itself is safe then it can continue to be used. See http://www.esc.org.uk/fileadmin/user_upload/documents/industry/best_practice/BestPracticeGuide4-Locked.pdf, especially page 19.

Ask your landlord to provide you evidence of electrical inspections. Treat theri non-reply with suspicion. My tenants get annual papwork automatically, even if they don’t ask for it.

Are you asking because you don’t like the look of the unit or because it’s frequently tripping? If the latter, there may be a problem elsewhere with the installation or the amount of load you’re taking from one area (e.g. too many extension cables).

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